[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Nonsense. The point is this: I refuse to pay respect to people if their only reaction is not in founded argument adressing arguments by others made before, but in just some noise making and some comment like "he is insane", "totally nuts" "Cannot be that way." People then could as well answer with "blue", "13.74" or "I go fishing" instead.

There's no requirement for you to pay respect. What I would suggest instead is a attitude that isn't mean-spirited and condescending to people who disagree with you.


It doesn't take long to see from the little bits you've posted here that Hoppe is absurdly simplistic and reductive. Not worthy of a serious time or intellectual investment, by my view.

Quick example.

He suggests Monaco, Liechteinstein, Singapore etc as models for the new autonomous regions. These areas are only notable in how they deviate from normal tax and trading structures, providing them with a comparative economic advantage. They win, and are seen by Hoppe as models because the playing field is not level. If we all had Monaco's tax laws, Monaco would no longer be special. The attractive nature of these regions is only because of their rarity. It's a moronic argument not worthy of serious consideration.

If I see quote after quote of rubbish like that, I'm hardly going to go into horrendous detail filleting the rest. Not worth it.

Just saying "I think he is wrong", is nothing. To explain why one thinks that, and give a reason that adresses the original argument, that is what makes any comment a comment, instead of just a random sound.

Tak wrote quite a good set of points that you completely ignored, you then posted a wall of quotes and proceeded to complain that nobody was taking you seriously.

I have given plenty of more reaosns and arguments why I think the way I do,. and the quotes I have choosen also include many explanations in themselves, although still leaving out many details. Compared to that the comments by some people in return are not even thin. They are just loud. Yours, for example.

I didn't go into detail because it didn't warrant it. See the point about SIngapore etc above - the materiel presented is not serious. Don't mistake brevity for frivolity.

Anyhow, even those of you thinking he or me are insane, you and us and we will not escape the future to come, and that future is nearer than many here want to believe. For a majority still seem to think that the party on tick can run on forever, but it cannot, and it will not. The present problems in the world have the potential to do more damage and to cause greater rifts and crackups in human history than any historic episode ever did before.

The End is Nigh, eh? I'd say the Black Death or the Spanish flu were pretty nasty.

Whjatz people see today in symptoms, usually is seen as isolated, singular events, that have nothing or at least not much to do with each other. And that is the great misperception. It is not many different little turmoils here and there. It all is just different feature of one and the same, overwhelming turmoil. The island is sinking, and people already stand with their feet in the water. But nobody believes it, everybody thinks its champagne, and so everybody gets a glass and demands some more.

This would be why I'm not taking a serious scholarly interest in anything you write or post from Hoppe. This over-generalised totally unfalsifiable conspiratorial rubbish. There was a thread where you were banging on about hormone problems due to gender engineering or saome such EU-dictated socialist control mechanism. I asked for any sort of proof - you kept the thread going and didn't provide any.

And seriously? The US is barely struggling out of recession, the eurozone is drowning in debt, China is waiting for it's housing bubble to burst, Kim Jong Un is playing with more dangerous things than firecrackers, and to top it all off the planet is melting..............and you think everyone is happy at a party drinking champagne?

This reminds me of another bloody stupid thing Hoppe wrote.

Originally Posted by Hoppe

According to the pronouncements of our state rulers and their intellectual bodyguards (of whom there are more than ever before), we are better protected and more secure than ever. We are supposedly protected from global warming and cooling, from the extinction of animals and plants, from the abuses of husbands and wives, parents and employers, from poverty, disease, disaster, ignorance, prejudice, racism, sexism, homophobia, and countless other public enemies and dangers.

Come on. You can't expect to post this kind of rubbish and not be told it's rubbish. Our leaders tell is everything is ok? That we've fixed the climate? That we're done with discrimination? That must explain how every newspaper is filled with nothing but good news.

Give. Me. A. Break.

I agree, some people are insane here. And its not me, trying to find a boat while the majority still parties. Because you guys think it's champagne you are standing in, you demand that the flood valves should be opened. But me is nuts, and insane, eh?

In the end the survivors will see who drinks and who swims. Just that then it will be too late. Maybe - no, probably it already is too late right now.

Again, over-generalised apocalyptic garbage. Apparently those of us who believe that democracy might be worth hanging on to all think we're standing in champagne.

Mine's a double.