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Skybird · 02-01-13, 08:40 PM

HundertzehnGustav beat me by some minutes on the story of Müller.

August, you rethorically asked who he is talking for when Gustav mentions "society". The question is rather whom the church is speaking for, considering the far-reaching special rights and special status it demands, considering formal Catholics are no majority but a minority over here (by a wide margin), and considering the fact that the majority of these followers are in open turnaway and disloyalty towards the church. The question also is why these demands for being given special rights and special status should be justified - both when considering the massive abuse of these powers, and when ignoring it and just considering the conclusion that due to it being the church it shall be seen as something "special" and "privileged". What for...?

Formally, the majority of Germans (and Europeans) is not Catholic. And in Germany and other countries, the majority of these Catholics meet the church with confrontation, desinterest.

I do not like the Protestant church one bit better. It is different, but not better. And in some regards it even is worse and far more underhanded.

So whom does the church, no matter which one, represent in society? Not as many as Gustav speaks for, this much I can promise you.

02-01-13, 08:40 PM	#152
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,800 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	HundertzehnGustav beat me by some minutes on the story of Müller. August, you rethorically asked who he is talking for when Gustav mentions "society". The question is rather whom the church is speaking for, considering the far-reaching special rights and special status it demands, considering formal Catholics are no majority but a minority over here (by a wide margin), and considering the fact that the majority of these followers are in open turnaway and disloyalty towards the church. The question also is why these demands for being given special rights and special status should be justified - both when considering the massive abuse of these powers, and when ignoring it and just considering the conclusion that due to it being the church it shall be seen as something "special" and "privileged". What for...? Formally, the majority of Germans (and Europeans) is not Catholic. And in Germany and other countries, the majority of these Catholics meet the church with confrontation, desinterest. I do not like the Protestant church one bit better. It is different, but not better. And in some regards it even is worse and far more underhanded. So whom does the church, no matter which one, represent in society? Not as many as Gustav speaks for, this much I can promise you. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.