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Stealhead · 01-16-13, 10:36 AM

Anyone who enlists in the US Military or is commissioned as an officer swears an oath to defend the Constitution not necessarily the government.As a result it is highly likely if a seriously objectionable order where given that clearly violated the Constitution many troops would refuse to obey it and most likely side with the people.

This is the oath of enlistment:

I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.

Notice the first part that means that if an officer or the President of the United States gives an order that clearly violates the Constitution the order is null and void.The President of the United States also swears an oath to defend the Constitution if he or she ever does violate this their position becomes null and void and any order given would also be null and void.

Here is a National Guard oath:
I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States and the State of (STATE NAME) against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the Governor of (STATE NAME) and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to law and regulations. So help me God.

01-16-13, 10:36 AM	#54
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Anyone who enlists in the US Military or is commissioned as an officer swears an oath to defend the Constitution not necessarily the government.As a result it is highly likely if a seriously objectionable order where given that clearly violated the Constitution many troops would refuse to obey it and most likely side with the people. This is the oath of enlistment: I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God. Notice the first part that means that if an officer or the President of the United States gives an order that clearly violates the Constitution the order is null and void.The President of the United States also swears an oath to defend the Constitution if he or she ever does violate this their position becomes null and void and any order given would also be null and void. Here is a National Guard oath: I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States and the State of (STATE NAME) against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the Governor of (STATE NAME) and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to law and regulations. So help me God.