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Old 01-15-13, 11:17 PM   #38
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Originally Posted by Stealhead View Post
Sorry that is simply racist to be honest as if there are no white criminals running around with illegal weapons.Of people I know that have had guns stolen it was most often a white boy that had stolen them.Two of my class mates got a ten year ride for stealing several grand in firearms during a robbery spree they where both white.

I see a criminal not a race.
Except that the reality is that the rate of black homicide is about 10X that for non-hispanic whites (US federal crime stats). The vast majority of black homicides are with african-americans as the perp and the victim, BTW. Whites almost never kill blacks (you hear about most as "hate crimes" though the larger % the other way around are just another day at the office).

Subtract non-asian minorities in the US, and the gun violence rate (note that the stats are by the race of the victim)is high by european standards, partially because minority on non-minority killings skew the average. Still, it is high like, say, Finland. High, but not outrageously high like the near 40:100,000 rate of gun deaths for blacks.

Newtown was terrible, but none of the current or proposed gun control legislation would have stopped it. If you magically made guns go away, a 20-something YO male could kill nearly as many with a KNIFE (a guy a year or two ago in the PRC did just that, and another recently wounded as many there). On top of that, a smart nut like the Newtown whacko could use google, then make a car or truck bomb out of common goods.

The solution to gun violence in the US is largely cultural, and related to mexicans and blacks, a fair bit as gang violence (at 10X the rate, the white rate is in effect nearly noise). For nut shootings like Aurora, Newtown, etc, it's a mental health issue, and since some severe mental illness presents in the teens and 20s commonly, the first warning (from a legal standpoint of the government knowing there is a problem) might be the attack.
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