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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve
I completely agree. Jones is a blight on pretty much everything.
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Reminded me of the words of some geezer I read somewhere: "It's not what you say, it's how you say it!"
Well, in this case there was also a remarkable incoherence in what he said...
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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve
So you believe that justifiable homicides should be counted as handgun murders? That, I think, is more bizarre than what you're condemning. How many violent crimes in Britain are justifiable homicides? How many shootings? How many muggings?
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No, this was not my point.
Fox reports 8000something gun homicides, then subtracts the number of justifiable homicides. This is legit. It is standard procedure when a alleged homicide happens, that the authorities examine the circumstances and when the state attorney comes to the conclusion the homicide was justified, the homicide charges are dropped.
However when they show the British numbers, they do not mention how they come to 59. Is this the number before or after justifiable homicides are subtracted?
Contrary to the US, where they show the total homicide numbers, they do also not show Britain's total numbers (which would be 550 according to the
BBC - multiply the numbers times 5 to compare it with the US).
After this they mention that 59 is not the number that Morgan keeps citing, they ven put up a text."Not the number Pierce Morgan Claims". A nice way to emphasize: this guy lies. They don't even mention that the number Jones' was claiming (11thousand something) also differs from the numbers which Fox has shown. A clear bias.
Another example of dishonest reporting is that they say that a correlation between gun wonership and the murder rate is not given, which is true as there are many other factors involved. However this also contradicts Jones' statement, who claims that the violent crime rate in the US dropped because the Assault Weapons Ban ran out. Just simple math: if guns (min) has no relation to crime (min), guns (max) also does not relate to crime (min).