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Originally Posted by Type XXIII
First of all, let me say that I strongly condemn the threats, the flag-burning and the diplomatic actions taken by Saudi-Arabia and Lybia. (Notice which powers that are reacting most fiercely to this issue, not Hamas in Palestine, Iran or Al Qaeda, which have received pepper in the past, but for instance Fatah, Saudi-Arabia and Lybia.)
Secondly let me point out the irony this. Some people (also within this thread) are accusing Islam in general, and muslims in general for generalization.
It is understandable that muslims dislike these drawings, as pictures of the Prophet are considered sacrilege within Islam. And, while the western world tends to take religion less seriously, it is common among muslims to take their religion very seriously.
Freedom of speech means that you have the right to say what you want, but not the duty. I think it is important to respect other cultures, and not offend them needlessly.
As I said, people tend to generalize, and let me point out that not all muslims have reacting with flag-burning and terror threats, consider this picture. It shows Danish muslims demonstrating against the pictures. The plakes read " Yes to dialog between civilizations and no to conflicts between civilizations", " To mock the prophet Mohammed is to mock more than 1.5 millions people" and " Yes to a freedom that unites and doesn't divide." Would any of you object to this demonstration? If you do, I won't hesitate to call you racist.
Also, I think the editor of the Norwegian Magazinet is a jerk. Standing up for Freedom of expression, indeed. He knew printing the cartoons would offend muslims yet still went ahead and did so. |
Assuming you maybe also mean me with "generalizing people", I would urge you to use the search-button. There are several VERY long topics I have posted on Islam in recent months, and i have quite some background knowledge on it, and experience in Muslim countries. There is a whole load of reasons why I accuse Islam the way I do, but i do not intend to list them in repeating topics again and again. You can find it all when you search for it. Additionally to these long threads (that I started or participated in), I made these essays:
http://people.freenet.de/Skybird/His...uranHadith.doc
http://people.freenet.de/Skybird/His..._1_Forword.doc
You are probably a well-meaning believer of the good in all men, and think if you want to know about Islam, you ask Islam and believe what it says without seeing the need to test what it says, and check if it is true and proven by it's behavior. that it may try to let itself shine in glory and remain silent about all the black spots it has in it's record maybe does not come to your mind. What Islam says that it is, is something very different than what it reveals about itself in it's history, AND in it's scriptures (which are filled with contradiction, lacking authenticity, and opportunism). well-meaning or not, your views must result in a highly biased and one-sided opinion in favour of Islam that way, ignorring all the contradictions that always have been part of it's highly expansive, militant and totalitarian identity. You also must miss that Islam may have intentions that are against your own intentions, so that it is hiding them from you and tells you the things you want to hear instead, that way making you opening the doors and gates in your home for it. There is no such thing as tolerant Islam. Their either is Islam, or tolerance, but not both, and I have illustrated that in many historical examples in past writings of mine. Where there is both, Muslims claim to be Muslims on the basis of a seriously flawed understanding. My understanding I base on the example set by Muhammad himself, and I don't mean the fiction that Islam has created around him, but the historical Muhammad.
the church was never in correspondence with Jesus' teachings, to the disadvantage of it's followers. but Islam
is in correspondence with it's scriptures, and it is based on an imitation of a seriously distorted recognition of Muhammad. Again it is to people's disadvantage. If the church would be in correspondence with Jesus' teachings, and Islam would stop to be in correspondence with it's own tradition and scriptures, then this would be a benefit for all. But that way the church wouldn'T be the church anymore, and Islam wouldn'T be Islam. We only have the worst of both traditions, so the question is not about who is right, Islam or Christianity, but only: who is the strongest.