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Old 11-08-12, 02:42 PM   #144
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Originally Posted by Tribesman View Post
You have regulations
Showing a driver's license?

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Bull, if it were true Vermont wouldn't have a agency for unlawful firearms would it, it wouldn't have a commision for the siezing of unlawful firearms and a process for disposing of unlawful firearms or an appeals process concerning firearms that are deemed illegal, they certainly wouldn't make registered gun salemen register handgun sales would they if there are no restrictions or requirements.
Convicted felons aren't allowed to own guns. Therefore any guns in their possession are unlawful.

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Nice try though
You're playing games again.

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And you link managed to contain a single example of a nobody, how much power does an anti smoking doctor have regarding firearms legislation?
I wasn't talking about that link. I was talking about people I have talked to, conferences I've attended, people I've seen on TV. It's real.

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No the keyword if you want the line to work is "all", so thats all guns which seems to have escaped you as you keep going on about only handguns. Not to mention that you havn't managed to provide a single example of an attempt to ban all handguns let alone all guns.
But the quote is true: If "all" guns were to be outlaws then only outlaws would have guns. Prevarication aside, is that concept true or not?


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Sorry Steve, you failed to spot that I hadn't narrowed it at all which was why your own narrow "handguns" attempts were all off target.
Its not like you to miss words and I have repeatedly used the two words throughout the topic so they shouldn't have been hard to spot.[/quoted]
The man I quoted (the founder of HCI, not whoever it is that you keep refering to) said that his stated goal was to eventually outlaw all handguns. You'll again point to "with a few exceptions". Their exceptions are always heavily licensed and regulated, "approved" special people, not any normal citizen.

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No, as exceptions always apply. Opiates are illegal, lots of non-outlaws can posess opiates can't they.
No, they can't. If you are in possession of an illegal substance, you are by definition a criminal, and therefore outside the law.

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If it was about freedom then a meaningfull arguement would be made not that parrot fodder which I initially pointed out
You keep playing games. Do you have anything real to discuss?
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