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Old 10-26-12, 02:20 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 View Post
People should only vote if they have the knowledge to do so.For example, if you can't tell me what keynesian economics is vs supply side in reasonable detail, stay home.Unfortunately, a large number of people can not.I was arguing with a room full of libs before the last debate, all of which hold bachelors degrees, all of which are in law school with me, yet many really could not comment on keynesian economics and why they never, ever work, ever. Amazes me what little so many voters actually know because if they did, there is no way they would vote for obama knowing he continues to pursue a failed course due to his ideology.
Amen to that. As I keep saying since long time: voting is not so much a right - that is just a formal framework; in the first it is a skill that needs to be achieved, needs to be learned and trained. That is true for many other decision-making processes, btw, from a psychological POV. Voting decisions made by habit or hear-say, are helping in the erosion of basic ideas behind democracy. You could as well ask people to flip a coin then, that would have not more and not less value.

In other words, like with opinions, it is not the vote you cast or the opinion you have that makes it already precious or important in itself, but whether or not you can found it by factual information and reasoning. That'S why I do not appreciate and value just any opinion on the mere and only basis that somebody happens to have it. I look at if he can give reasons for it, and what these reasons are. Only then I maybe can respect even an opinion that I do not share. But never just because it is there! That would be stupid.

However, and this might be where we start to disagree probably, I keep on saying: don'T vote. Boycott elections. Help to bring down the turnout so that those hidden elites in the background profiting from the system's rules and pulling the string in reality can no longer hide behind it. It does not matter which party or candidate you vote for - you legitimise the system itself which will stay, no matter your vote, and that system runs by corrupted rules and plays a cheated match.

You get manipulated. Do not fall for it.

In this SF movie "The Island", 2005, there is this population believing in this lottery they have, that chooses the happy daily winner to escape life in the boring subterranean complex they all live in, and spend the rest of his life in a paradise. But the paradiuse doe snot exist. In reality they all are clones, bred as living organ banks, and when the lottery chooses them to go to the happy island, in fact they get killed and their organs removed.

Do not fall for the illusions you are being told. Those you elect, anyway think you are just stupid, and all time long you prove them to be correct. You fall for their slogans, you legitimise them in their functions although you know they will corrupt things even more, and tailor the syytem more in favour of their monetarian and idelogical missions. Just listen to them while they tlak to you when they want somethign from you, and you can hear it in every senmetence how stupoid and dull they think you are. They do so, becaseu they get away with it, and they know it. Maybe you are no living organbanks still(although considering the events and media campaigns about organ donors in Germany one could start thinking politically very incorrect thoughts here...). But you are working drones for the few and their material as well as their ideological demands. And they keep alive this illusion of elections as a relief valve for pressure that otherwise might turn into an uprise against the cheated rules of the game. Whatever it was our forefathers suffered for and fought over to overcome aristocracy and theocracy and tyrannic regimes - the betrayal that we have today is what it was not about. This it is not...!

Don't vote. Nur die dümmsten Kälber wählen sich ihre Metzger selber.
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