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Old 10-12-12, 08:53 AM   #8
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growth, while not as quickly as we want it, has come about in the past 4 years. unemployment is down to 7.8 percent and we are starting to see improvements.


Unemployment was 7.6 % when Obama took office. It is a questionable 7.8% now. Even if you believe that number (and most economists are calling it an anomoly) - its higher than it was. That isn't an improvement. When REAL unemployment - the total number of people able to work that are unemployed, underemployed or simply no longer in the work force (labor participation rate is VERY low) is around 14% - that isn't an improvement.

Starting to see improvement? Growth this year is anemic. It is slower than last year. Last year was slower than the year before. You call that improvement? There is a reason economists are continuing to discuss the real possibility of a "double dip" recession. California (8th largest economy) didn't even get its numbers in so the data will be severely readjusted higher soon enough. Look for it to be adjusted back to 8.0 or higher.

Slower and slower growth, fewer and fewer people working, more and more people on food stamps. Inarguable truths that you can't refute. If you see that as "improvement" - I hate to see what you would call paradise.

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Those top republicans who argue for the removal of social security are potentially destroying one of the most viable retirement options we have in place.


Name me one "top" republican that has argued for the removal of social security. Just one. There isn't one. Make stuff up alot?

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These are Americans who are dying because they cant afford healthcare and no one is willing to take their money. This is their lives at risk.


Bullcrap. If they can't afford healthcare - what money are you talking about? The money they don't have? If so - then why are they not already on the existing social net that exists for the poor? Oh wait - that's right - doing that wouldn't give the government more control over how EVERYONE gets care - it would mean they could only control health care for the poor.

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Obama has no control over gas prices.

Again - hogwash. Thinks like stopping the Keystone XL pipeline have a direct impact on the availability and thus price of oil/gas. The administration not only stopped that project, but has restricted domestic oil production on federal land - meaning more supplies must come from overseas. All of which affect gas prices. I am not saying that the futures market doesn't have some impact, but to claim that the President (through his administration) has no control - is just an outright fallacy.

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The extremists caused the riots, their drastic and idiotic response to the film was outragous.


Its already been proven that there was NO riot at all in Libya. Even the Intel community states so - and told the Administration that at the outset. Your pedalling a line that has already been demonstrated to be an outright lie put out by the administration.

I would go on - but I have to get to work. Otherwise I will be one more statistic.
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