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Old 09-23-12, 07:52 AM   #4
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Originally Posted by joea View Post
Still stuck on this northern industrious folk paying for the lazy southerners eh? One who is so critical of the falsehoods we are all fed.
I see it is still popular to simply accuse us evil Germans and expect us to pay for you eternally, while denying the responsibility of your own people for your own state and your own corrupted system.

Well, already the ancient Egypts called the Greek "their spoilt little children".

If you want to accuse anyone, then accuse your own citizens who by overwhelming majority willed to be accomplice in a corrupt and rotten system as long as they benefitted from it, and accuse your own elites and politicians who are at war with your people since I do not long how long. Not before thiese ways did not function anymore you started to revolt a bit. Instead of accusing others for running their states better than you run yours, you should see them as an example by which you could learn how to run your own state. Because at the heart of the Greek problem lies that the Greek people never have learned how to run a state, and replaced it with corruption, bribery and nepotism. That worked because as long as your country had a geostrategic importance and thus was important for superior countries, they willed to pay for your deficits that you created by your ways. First they external thrad was the Osdman em,pire, later it was the USSR. But you do not have that important geostrategic meaning to offer anymore, your geostrategic position is not that important anymore after the cold war ended. Your favorite trading item - geostrategic position - does not sell anymore. You now face the consequences of your rotten system in full, without others automatically jumping to your side to compensate your deficits. So now you better change your ways, and learn how to run your banana-republic, - or you will forever stay in the swamp you are in now.

Not before you accept responsibility for your own fate, will your situation ever improve. Look at Finland, they had very serious financial and economic troubles, and if they would have done like Greece does today, they still would have them, and would be dependent, and would have no reason to be proud. But they did not do like that, but spit in their hands, tightened their belts, and got to work on their economy and state. today, they are well off, and I have a damn amount of respect for what the current generation of Fins has achieved. And I have strong sympathy for any Fin now complaining why Greece expects to be given a free ride at the expense of Finland and other billions-net-payers - when Finland achieved what it did by its own work and responsibility and sacrifice.

BTW, if others pay billions and billions for you and ruins his own future, while you still tell them forged statistics and lies, the last thing you may want to do is to even accuse them and attacking them over and over again. Responsible for your misery in the first is - not us, but you. And we accept high damages to ourselves just to keep you floating. And for that we get attacks in return. It is this attitude that has many Germans showing Greece the middlefinger only anymore.

No, Joea, I completely leave you in the rain over this.
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