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Old 01-22-06, 02:47 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by Gizzmoe
You write that SF adds cyber doors and remote access to our computers. Do you have any proof for that? At the moment I think you don´t really know what you are talking about and that you simply confuse terms. Or maybe I just don´t get what you are trying to say...
I found that quite offensive. And at the moment I believe your assumptions may cause harm to yourself and with your unfounded assurances that SF is of no Danger, it may harm others as well.

Now I abhor conflict however, I will let you know how and why I come to these conclusions. See if you can keep up, as some of this is quite technical.

This is for the Windows XP OS's only.

1. Run SH3.
2. Alt+Tab or use whatever functions your OS allows you to minimize the game with.
3. Go to Star>Run, type into the Command Prompt. "tasklist /svc" without the quotes, you should see several services running under the CVS index including the illegal entry of Starforce Environment Driver, StarForce Protection Helper Driver and StarForce Synchronization Driver. If you do not see them. Well as I said, "Not all machines are the same."

4. type into the command prompt, "netstat -a" active connection will include a connection to 'SF Protection' it should be listed as "Listening."

5. type into command prompt, "netstat -b" to see all connections if SF was not listed as Active then it should be listed in here.

Still not convinced?

Right click, "My Computer." click "Properties." go to "Hardware" then "Device Manager". Now click "View" then "Show Hidden Devices" now go to "Non-Plug and Play Drivers" and you should see the same ones I listed in step 3. Right click anyone of them and click "Properties." then click "Driver" and you should see each SF Driver is listed as a "Windows Service" which means it is an Active connection and has permission to do whatever it wants under the SVCHost operation it also work on Boot. As is true that some Windows Services are directly connected with Microsoft. it is the same with the SF Drivers, that I mentioned. Now there may be legitimate reason for adding them in this manner but the point is, they did it without the user's permission and without allowing them to edit it.

If you saw none of what I mentioned then please, REMEMBER. "Not All Computer Systems Are The Same." and if you tell me, "Then it may just be your system that reacts like that." then I can say the same thing to you. Because not all computers are a like. So there is no way you can know how a software will effect someone else's PC.
So saying something is good for someone else may not be an actual fact. With the various system configurations in them, Computers have become equivalent to the Human body and can have serious reactions to a piece of software much in the way a Person has allergic reaction.

So don't just come out and say SF is good or that it is bad for someone else's PC. You don't know for sure and my original debate was that it was a DRM-RAT-RootKit which I feel I have just proven and when I said "Cyber Door and Remote Access" I was well awaer they both meant the same thing it is just not everyone is familiar with the term "Cyber Door".

I do not mean to be shroud, but your assumption could in effect Damage someone else's PC, the danger with SF is real and SF's reactions are sincerely lacking.
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