Statistic is the art of twisting numbers to prove your point.
Therefore, statistics are irrelevant.
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Originally Posted by Skybird
I just used Google for "Richard Munday". Seems he has a long record in propagating free arms for free people
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This attack on the author is confortable as it makes unecessary to refute his statistics at all, not that any statistic is worth to prove a case.
Last I heard the British police has deep connections to the British government too and are happy with their firepower superiority, can they be trusted either?
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Originally Posted by Kalach
Here in Australia we have a lot of gun restrictions. I know no one who owns a gun, and no one I know has been shot by one either
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And this is a very good way to start a post, declaring "I don't know" twice, what else you don't know? What you know is that the restrictions in Australia happened after a moment of public commotion, populism at best, instead of investigating the Men who go berserk, ban his instruments and let's all pretend the problem is solved and nobody else will ever go insane again, as people go insane because they are affected by mental waves irradiated from firearms.
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Originally Posted by Kalach
Not long ago there were some large riots going on in Sydney, cars and buildings were burnt down and there was violence in the streets
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Hooligans? Did they passed by a firearms store by any chance to get affected by the mental waves to get mad? We also have riots over here in Brazil and violence too, busses are burnt with people inside and a young girl got 40% of her body severely burned, our least violent "city" is more violent than Sydney, yet, in our riots nobody dies or gets injuried by firearms either, and we have narco-gun-dealers at hand, illegal guns can be acquired for as low as US$ 25 to US$ 50.
Anyway, statistical comparisons between the USA and European countries usually border the realm of stupidity or bad intelectual faith, it is more appealing to the random uninterested man to be fed a statistic so he can feel satisfied with it.
Most statistics are of very low quality, they don't tell who got shot or why, they don't tell if the person died in the hospital or instantenously, they don't tell who the shooter was, was he a petty robber? Was he a drug-dealer? Did he suffered from any mental disease or were using drugs at the time? Are these deaths/crimes highly focused in specific regions? Were the crimes solved and the criminals arrested? What's the background of the criminal and the victim (socio-cultural-financial, etc..)?
Sure, monopoly of power by the state is not glorious, but Britain is a private club, like many European nations are, it is true the crime in America was reduced in the past decades, but that's not specificaly related to the amount of firearms sold, just like if the crime rises in Britain that is not specificaly related to the amount of firearms not sold.