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Old 08-12-12, 11:40 AM   #779
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You are still wrong in assuming an escort wouldn't close an U-Boat
I am not against escorts closing in, MY point is that they come closer than the minimum fire range. Thats a different thing than just closing in, of course it would close in, that is a given.

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, first thing. Shelling from a distance is a battleship-cruiser style fight.
Battleships have distances up to 20 and 30 miles, I am talking about distances of 7000 metres and lower. That is within the destroyer fire range and they could fire much further than that as well.

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Every escort would, first thing, close the U-Boat as much as they could. What the situation developed later depended on if the sub submerged or not. If it didn't submerge, they would try to ram. It was indeed common, and even more in the first years of the war.
I am not against ramming, I just don't think it fits very well for 4 or 8 destroyers to ram the uboat and make a sacrifice that big. It doesn't make much sense. What I would like to see, if there are 4 destroyers, I would like to see the closest destroyer try to ram it, and the 3 remaining stay within closest fire range and shell it. And to be quite honest, I would also love to see destroyers not ram the u-boat, perhaps at random, a little bit variation, I do seriously think that they didn't always do that. A little bit variation, to make the game more exciting as well, prevent knowing what will happen when you surface, a dynamic world. Just like the real world.

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And anyway, if you have an enemy DD coming to you at more than 30 knots, it wouldn't make much difference if he really wants to ram you, or just force you under, the effect would be the same!
It would create more damage to its own vessel of course, but the speed setting is not the most important point here, but if I were in that destroyer I would slow down a lot right before impact.

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PS I forgot to add that I think neither guns or ramming were the main weapons against u-boats. DCs were the main weapon used against them, and which sank more u-boats.
This is surfaced, you don't use dc's when the uboat is surfaced and from distance, you shell it, thats the main weaponry on the surface. DC's is used primarily to attack submerged vessels.

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And if we go on much further, we'll be kidnapping this thread - though with an interesting discussion!
You're right
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