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Originally Posted by Hottentot
Um, he did not as far as I can tell. This started from a specific comparison between AQ and the Viet Cong. I'm no expert on Vietnam war, but in this case it seems to me that August has a valid point. It makes sense to make a difference between a traditional army and a mostly guerilla force.
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Skybird's original point:
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In Vietnam the Vietcong also lost every ground battle and offensive it tried - and still won the war.
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was correct, and he reiterated it later. His point was that the Vietnamese won and the Americans lost. While he was technically in error as to the proper names of the victors his point is still correct. August used that error to "prove" Skybird "wrong", but also changed the point of Sky's original argument to suit his own ends, and changed the subject of that argument. He then claimed that his point was the original one, which is not true. This is a classic example of the 'Red Herring' debate tactic.
http://web.cn.edu/kwheeler/fallacies_list.html