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Old 08-01-12, 08:20 AM   #8
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Originally Posted by JU_88 View Post
In a bitter sweet sort of way, I guess the question is would you like to live though almost a decade of war, in order to be able to cast a ballot?
If you have lost your livelyhood and/or home and/or loved ones, im guessing the answer is probably maybe not.

An invasion of Iraq had been on the cards since 2000 (feel free to look it up)
I do not believe for a second we went in to Iraq to spread democracy or to find WMDs, those were 'excuses' not legitimate reasons.
And even if theywere, if foreign troops invaded our nations to disarm us and replace our Political leadership? How would we feel about it?
We'd be somewhere between 'outraged' and 'a bit skeptical' I imagine.


However you dress it up, its still a case 'We think our system is superior to yours. so we will force you to live like us AND! expect you to thank us for it.
Now how democratic is that? And where in the U.S consitution does it say this is acceptable?

Its total BS, Bush & Blair used 9/11 fear mongering to sucker us in to supporting their dodgy deeds. Quite a nasty pair - those two.
Invasion of Iraq was in part to change geopolitical map of middle east.
Democracy and pro western government is one of the ways to do it...im not WMD story buyer but general behavior of Saddam Hussein called for such war.by 2000 he was re-establishing his position as regional bully.
9/11 opened wndow to finish the job.


Iraqi's Sadam Hussein deserved very much his ass to be kicked out of power the only miscalculation was about the chaos thereafter.
Iraqis had been no lovers of Saddam Husein as some welcomed Americans...the problem had been and is the tribal mentality and the meddling of neighboring countries like Iran and Syria or SA which looked toward destabilising any chance of civil life....by supporting all sorts of fractions that went along their own interests.
Iran for example would hate this experiment to succeed next door...same SA or Syria.
USA found it self in the middle of that taking all the heat.
Most of casualties in Iraq are due to tribal wars and terrorism against own population to create atmosphere of total chaos...terror at its best which in turn caused US forces to adopt some though polices.
It seems more act of terror had been conducted against own population or representatives of post Saddam government that actual US forces in Iraq...
Yet USA has been generally more successful in Iraq that in Afghanistan...as for now.
Question is how long it will hold with Iran trying to gain more influence over the region.
As it turns out ME is not Germany or Japan lol.





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