well yeah the Knife fight Is a different thing. If we were going by that, a close In dogfight would be DOMINATED by the new thrust vectoring flankers. but modern Air combat is more than that...and and Aircraft that is so hard to hit at range, but has technology that allows it to hit you at that same range is, well quite scary. By the time a flight would make it to merge I bet heavy losses would already be there, making up the "maneuverability difference"
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