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Skybird · 07-25-12, 07:51 AM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1696303.html

A girl gets sexually assaulted, then pictures of the deed get posted oin the web and the perpoetrators boast with them, the two attackers confess guilty, at court there is a deal made, and the victim of the crime never got asked, while her attackers got away with a mild clap on their fingers.

As if that is not already disghustign enough and shameful enough, she then reveals the identity of her attackers via twitter, to expose them to public shame at least, doing this in frustraiton or despair over a court that obviously has put the interests of her attcakers over the claim of justice for the victim. Since the court has mandatorily demanded that the parties should not talk about it at all, the girl now faces a maximum penalty of up to 180 days in prison.

If you lie on the ground and get kicked and hit, expect others to also spit in your face afterwards.

This is what I mean when I say our legal systems are not worth the name, have too many laws, to many rules for rules for rules, and a too desintegrated underatanding of this old term that once was called "justice" and the meaning of the difference between victim and perpetrator.

Brave young woman. Shame on the judge. While in principle gag orders in juvenile caes can be understood, I think it should not lead as far as punioshing the victim of a serious crime when it acts over a court failing in its duty to actually punish the perpetrator and putting the perpetrators's longtime interests over the responsbility for the deed he did, ignoring the victims suffering and demand for justice being done.

Forgiveness is nothing that can be demanded or is to be expected. It is given by the victim voluntarily- or not. There is no moral obligation to forgive, even if some religions claim it to be ethically desirable - it still is no obligation.

Before forgiveness, there must be honest regret.
Before there can be honest regret, there must be confession of guilt.
Before honest confession of guilt, there must be clear and full insight.

07-25-12, 07:51 AM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,649 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Punishing the victim http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1696303.html A girl gets sexually assaulted, then pictures of the deed get posted oin the web and the perpoetrators boast with them, the two attackers confess guilty, at court there is a deal made, and the victim of the crime never got asked, while her attackers got away with a mild clap on their fingers. As if that is not already disghustign enough and shameful enough, she then reveals the identity of her attackers via twitter, to expose them to public shame at least, doing this in frustraiton or despair over a court that obviously has put the interests of her attcakers over the claim of justice for the victim. Since the court has mandatorily demanded that the parties should not talk about it at all, the girl now faces a maximum penalty of up to 180 days in prison. If you lie on the ground and get kicked and hit, expect others to also spit in your face afterwards. This is what I mean when I say our legal systems are not worth the name, have too many laws, to many rules for rules for rules, and a too desintegrated underatanding of this old term that once was called "justice" and the meaning of the difference between victim and perpetrator. Brave young woman. Shame on the judge. While in principle gag orders in juvenile caes can be understood, I think it should not lead as far as punioshing the victim of a serious crime when it acts over a court failing in its duty to actually punish the perpetrator and putting the perpetrators's longtime interests over the responsbility for the deed he did, ignoring the victims suffering and demand for justice being done. Forgiveness is nothing that can be demanded or is to be expected. It is given by the victim voluntarily- or not. There is no moral obligation to forgive, even if some religions claim it to be ethically desirable - it still is no obligation. Before forgiveness, there must be honest regret. Before there can be honest regret, there must be confession of guilt. Before honest confession of guilt, there must be clear and full insight. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.