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Originally Posted by Codz
If true, then anarchy has the same flaw as communism. It requires you to fundamentally change human nature. Like it or not, society is too interwoven for it to ever truely work. I prefer the realistic balance we have now to utopian ideals destined to fail.
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In the "final" stage, a communistic society and anarchy would not differ so much. Remember guys: I am still speaking of the ideal, the utopia. However an anarchist ideal is the rejection of collectivism - that's why for example the efforts to build a libertarian society in modern times, like in Ukraine and Spain, were always attacked by both Commies and fascists.
Speaking of ideals: I do not think that man is inherently good - or evil. That's why all the efforts to doctor the "ideal human" failed, they all were the attempts to put something in top of the people which they are not.
I also think that humans have a natural relation to things like possessions. Things we can see and hold in your hands. That's why for example people take more care of their own car than a public bus. This effect can also be seen in work life: when people have a say they feel attached, they produce much better results in the economic sense, but also feel themselves personally much better - a part of the team, not a work drone.
The same attachment to "the things you have" can be seen when you take a look at society. People care first for their own, the little units they can see, feel and understand - Family, friends, their own local surrounding. This is where self organization starts.
This is the reason why federalism is in principle a good idea. The understanding, that the smaller entities should be recognized and have a say. And this is how a just society should be organized, from down to top, not vice versa.
That's why I think that the ideal of an anarchist society would reflect human nature. In this ideal people would still have a home, a piece of land. Where I differ with the right wing libertarians (in the US meaning) is that I think that key stuff, which affects all people (e.g. health care, energy, etc.) should be under control of all people.
How to get a just society, where individual freedom is guaranteed and how to get a just economic system where productivity and protection from exploitation is guaranteed: I have no brilliant idea, all I know it would take billions of tiny steps rather than a snip. I even have no clue how my stance is called. I'm just anti-everything
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Originally Posted by August
Rights and liberties must be defended or they will soon be lost. There must be some organization to defend them and that is called government.
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I 100% agree with your first sentence, but I think government has a natural tendency to make governing as easy as possible - it's always easier to control sheep without rights than people who have a say. This is the reason why any government should be watched with vigilant eyes, all the time.