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Old 01-16-06, 06:17 AM   #11
Konovalov
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Default Re: Tragic Hajj stampede

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Originally Posted by Iceman
I think ALL of Islam continually re-enforces the "Death To America/Isreal" mentality and I see it every day from every Muslim community in Every country that has them....Where are all these "Peace" loving Muslims?....Simple Question...Where are they?...Please point me to the links which show the Muslim "Red Cross" or whatever in action....show me the Muslim Organizations that swooped into action when the world saw the Tsuanimi kill thousands....Please show me the International Efforts made by these people....and Then..I may again re-think my current opinion of them...but for now they "seem" like rabid wild animals to me...and should be treated as such I guess.
So I, Caspofungin, and others here (yes there are other Muslims on this site but choose not to reveal themselves), in your view "seem like rabid wild animals...and should be treated as such." This is the kind of dangerous dehumanizing language that eventually leads to one group of human beings slaughtering another be it the Nazi atrocities against the Jews, or the genocide in Rwanda committed in most part by Hutus against Tutsis and so on. I urge you not to tread down such a slippery slope but rather to look harder for the wider truth.

In just over the last year my wife and I have donated over £400 (approx USD $700) to three charities those being Muslim Aid, Islamic Relief, and also the International Red Cross. In addition to these money donations we have also donated winter clothing and shoes thru a local community initiative that was taken by family relatives directly to one of the effected areas of the Asian eathrquake. One of my uncles who is a medical surgeon in Manchester took a months leave from work to fly to Kashmir Pakistan to volunteer his medical services for the earthquake relief effort which in Pakistan are sadly lacking.

Another example was at the end of Ramadhan last year during the Eid celebrations which is similar to Christmas in that all the family gets together and have a big meal and the kids get presents. Normally Muslims spend money on gifts and on nice looking outfits for the occassion but this time because of the horrors of the tsunami and the earthquake, as a family we decided not to spend money on such items but rather to donate it to charity.

Iceman, are these examples that I have mentioned above the actions of rabid wild animals? Should I and my family be treated like dogs? I am not angry at what I hear here so much as I am deeply saddened. But I am an optimist and there is always hope.
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