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Originally Posted by Oberon
Yeah, the auto-loaders seemed like a good idea in theory. Still, we've lost a few loaders to getting in the way of the cannon over the years I'd wager.
Interesting to see T-72s in there too, presumably they can be reactivated in an emergency, like the US boneyards? Kind of lacking the whole protective environment though...  Makes you wonder just how many are sitting in warehouses out in the Urals...    You know how the Russians hate throwing anything away when it can still be used...
I didn't know M1A1s and A2s had ERA though, I thought they relied on the Chobham armour being one tough cookie to crack. I had heard rumours though, on the turret or around that area IIRC, to protect against RPGs.
Did Israel also have a ERA system which exploded before the grenade hit the hull in order to prematurely detonate it? I think there was also talk in the future of using hull point-defence lasers to hit grenades before they had a chance to hit the tank, I don't know how far ahead that is though. Probably around the same time as our chameleon tanks. 
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Here is a shot of an M1A2 with the latest ERA:
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg853...pg&res=landing
My guess is that weapons being weapons and armor being armor one is always trumping the other Chobham has been around since the late 1970's that is plenty of time for someone to think of a counter.The ERA has changed since the kind that I saw in 2003~2007 in fact back then the containers where much more box shaped.My guess with my extensive training with explosives(not) is that the the containers are curved out for a reason perhaps to increase the chance that the threat warhead is destroyed by the ERA.As I understand no M1A1/2 Abrams was
destroyed out right some got disabled and then the Americans did not want to leave a tank behind so if they could not remove it quickly they took what they could of value out and destroyed it.
Look at any
destroyed Abrams and you will that Uncle Sam finished it off :
http://www.militaryimages.net/photop...s_learned5.jpg
http://www.militaryimages.net/photop..._learned5a.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi.../B-23-1991.jpg
Now this is what a destroyed by the enemy tank looks like:
http://www.dubbs.info/images/graphical/image059.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_zUe7sq7m3h...%2BGeorgia.jpg
http://s51.radikal.ru/i132/0903/d3/dcf3f2b9fde3.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WZQplcqRYd...+destroyed.jpg
Which one of these is not like other?
@August got 50K? then here you go..
http://www.mortarinvestments.eu/prod...2#currency=USD
Oh man could you have some fun with this thing..
http://www.mortarinvestments.eu/prod...2#currency=EUR