Hey Catfish,
Quote:
Originally Posted by Catfish
Second, the claim that the theory that it was staged is absurd, and that there has been nothing gained by it:
|
Nothing was gained by the form, how the attacks wnet down. Look at the bloodiest wars in European history: all that has been necessary to light the fumes was one dead person. One dead by throwing him out ofa window, one shot prince, one dead body who was put into a Polnish uniform. So do you really thing a big 'show' like 9/11 was necessary, even though we live in the media age?
If you'd rely on a false flag operation why doing it so big, the bigger the circle of people involved, the bigger are the chances to get discovered.
You're spot on with your observations about the climate of fear. And this is exactly why I think it's a waste of time to concentrate on shady theories which are unproven, claims that derive from bad research methods and often idiotic ideological bs.
We have the very same derogation of civil rights after 2001 in Europe like in the US. This is the thing we have to defend and this is the thing one has to point out.
In Germany we have already seen this hysteria in the 70s, with the RAF. The government didn't have to invent them, but in this climate they put people out of work for the wrong beliefs (Berufsverbote), used new surveillance measures (Schleierfahndung), not even mentioning the thousands who were searched, controlled, registered as 'sympathizers'. In short: the hardliners used it to come closer to their wet dreams of a police state.
I didn't watch your video link, but I doubt it somehow differs from the vids about 9/11 where I took the time to watch. So my guess is they still found no smoking gun in this either.
Just take your link from telepolis: The pic the author used to illustrate the radar covery was already proven as false in the comment section - it covers only little heights. This is what I mean by bad methodology.
Being critical against the mainstream media, means also that you use the same work ethics criteria for
all people, so also for the ones from the alternative media.
Being non-mainstream does not somehow make a source reliable - good journalistic work does. And exactly this is what I miss by the Troofers (and The Sun, Bild, etc...)
Here is a non-mainstream-media link about the conspiracy stuff:
http://www.kopfentlastung.de.vu/ some stuff to read, but imo quite well written. (Sorry to the others, site's in German only and too much to translate), coming from a critical postition, certainly not from people who are blind followers, also some critique about the scepticism-guys.
I would be interested what you think about this article.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sailor Steve
That is a fair point. It is also not proof, or even remote evidence, that anything was staged.
|
^this
Cause and effect. Many people gain something from a heritage, this doesn't mean that most kill their relatives.