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Catfish · 06-10-12, 01:14 PM

First, you are right:

I do not trust governments, and what is spread via the mass media - and this is quite obvious if you think of Cameron and Rupert Murdoch media alone - not that you hear such things about the US when it comes to CNN and Fox News (of course both are telling lies all the time, and they blatantly support republicans and big business - not common people with common sense).

Second, the claim that the theory that it was staged is absurd, and that there has been nothing gained by it:

Really ?

What about having a new enemy, after the soviet block broke away ?
So no budget cuts and and new funds for all those agencies.

What about a faked reason for wars against nations that never had to do with 9/11 ?
And "b.t.w." thus securing energy resources.

What about an accepted allowance to torture and kill people under the pretext (!) of terroristic threats, without any trial ?
And "B.T.W." being able to so keep Guantanamo, as a torture camp outside of the territory and jurisdiction of the US, without needing to close it down anymore "because of those terrorists".
Imprison people like this taxi driver who was arrested as a terrorist and is still in prison, despite the whole world knows that it is wrong. (Only one example of hundreds)

What about having a pretext to tighten the screws regarding freedom of speech and the NSA being able to read every f'n eMail WORLDWIDE ?

What about killing people worldwide with drones, in territory abroad outside the jursidiction of the US, with "collateral damage" no one dares to doubt "because of the terrorists".

What about an artificial climate of fear making people crazy und uncertain with the argument of a worldwide terroristic orgaization who could attack anywhere, anytime ?

What about now needing a bulwark against Islam, like against the USSR not so long agao ? Israel comes in handy, now lets support and arm them.

Not to forget, a real playground for weapons and a reason to increase the defense funds to never known heights, greatly pleasing the weapon industry, and lobbies.

And a nice argument to mock the 'traitors' who dare to question all those patriotic actions.

If it was not staged, it was surely used to full extent for all kinds of mass influencing and throwing lots of rights and democratic life overboard - among with common sense.
If he could, I am sure Wolfowitz would give the terrorists a gold medal.

06-10-12, 01:14 PM	#5
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,803 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	First, you are right: I do not trust governments, and what is spread via the mass media - and this is quite obvious if you think of Cameron and Rupert Murdoch media alone - not that you hear such things about the US when it comes to CNN and Fox News (of course both are telling lies all the time, and they blatantly support republicans and big business - not common people with common sense). Second, the claim that the theory that it was staged is absurd, and that there has been nothing gained by it: Really ? What about having a new enemy, after the soviet block broke away ? So no budget cuts and and new funds for all those agencies. What about a faked reason for wars against nations that never had to do with 9/11 ? And "b.t.w." thus securing energy resources. What about an accepted allowance to torture and kill people under the pretext (!) of terroristic threats, without any trial ? And "B.T.W." being able to so keep Guantanamo, as a torture camp outside of the territory and jurisdiction of the US, without needing to close it down anymore "because of those terrorists". Imprison people like this taxi driver who was arrested as a terrorist and is still in prison, despite the whole world knows that it is wrong. (Only one example of hundreds) What about having a pretext to tighten the screws regarding freedom of speech and the NSA being able to read every f'n eMail WORLDWIDE ? What about killing people worldwide with drones, in territory abroad outside the jursidiction of the US, with "collateral damage" no one dares to doubt "because of the terrorists". What about an artificial climate of fear making people crazy und uncertain with the argument of a worldwide terroristic orgaization who could attack anywhere, anytime ? What about now needing a bulwark against Islam, like against the USSR not so long agao ? Israel comes in handy, now lets support and arm them. Not to forget, a real playground for weapons and a reason to increase the defense funds to never known heights, greatly pleasing the weapon industry, and lobbies. And a nice argument to mock the 'traitors' who dare to question all those patriotic actions. If it was not staged, it was surely used to full extent for all kinds of mass influencing and throwing lots of rights and democratic life overboard - among with common sense. If he could, I am sure Wolfowitz would give the terrorists a gold medal. Last edited by Catfish; 06-12-12 at 06:32 AM.