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Originally Posted by August
I don't consider a few months of conscript training to be "trained for war". That might have worked pre-WW2 but the weapons, equipment and tactics used these days are far more complicated.
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Well lets think were the professionals come, in US and UK they are mostly from lower a socio- economic backround that is less educated. In exsample Finland everybody has to serve. They are tested and trained were they are best suited. I was in a recon unit as a FO and i have all the skills and condition to do that job well. I like to hunt and go running and backpacking. My service buddys had a backround in orienteering, skiing, biathlon and crosscountry running in national level. My friend was in ELINT/ECM, he is studying a related area in university. Other one studying logistics served in artillery logistics. The later civilian career also effects were you are placed. And you have to attend training during reserve. Finns in Bosnia and Kosovo have been just as good or better in excercises as the professional armys. ,most of the Finns there are reservists or straight out of conscript service. My friend there told that an US officer had wondered how it was possible that finnish troops can master so many skills that were not part of their official job there.