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Originally Posted by Skybird
you did not accept when I said atheism is not a belief, atheists do not have a dogma they beolieve in and want to spread.
Now tell me, u_crank or anyone else, that atheism is a "belief", is dogmatic, is a religion, or whatever!
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If you carefully read all that I have said on this matter in this thread you will find what I have said quite clearly that Atheism is
like a religion. I did not say it
is a religion. There is a distinction between those two assertions. Post #17 - quote
"there are many forms of belief. Atheism is
as dogmatic a belief system as any religion on this planet."
As to the 'belief system' argument I think I have said all I can say on that. If you don't accept that explanation I respect your choice. And as for the dogmatic, usually the most militant and active in any cause take this road. I'm not on it and have no idea whether you are or not.
The video is interesting but I have seen most of it before, as this subject interests me. Yes it is very calm and reasonable. And yes, from the atheist point of view it is right on the mark. Using science to prove that God doesn't exist is unusual. Do scientists have more insight on this than anyone else? Their inability to convince all others would suggest otherwise. The fact is neither side can 'prove' anything and is why I will not take part in that debate. If a person was to change his mind because of the 'debate', perhaps it can be changed again.
It is an endless discourse.
I first heard the Irish joke here.
It's a very long video but the joke is at the 34:00 minute mark. Hitchens dry and straight faced humour is nicely displayed here. It is amazing to see two men with opposing ideas converse with such respect and openness. Well worth watching the whole thing. It is not a debate but a pre-debate discussion. It's cool that they have similar experiences and are in agreement on a number of topics. An excellent video.