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Old 05-30-12, 08:17 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve View Post
The human mind wants to know the answers, and when there are none to be had turns to speculation. If there is no countering evidence spectulation becomes ingrained and becomes belief, which in turn becomes "fact". There is a long history of science having to wage an uphill battle against people in authority who already "know" the answers and do anything to stop that changing.
Long eons ago, religion and science lay in the same hands, and the priests tried to understand the stars in order to learn their god'S will or future fate or whatever. Astronomy is probably the olderst scientific branch of all. Probably even caveman occasionally looked at the moon and the sun and by his intellectual means tried to figure what they were.

It took the "Greek revolution", the implementation of the Greek understanding of scientific methodology that explicitly ruled out the validty of referring to the supernatural as an explanation for phenomenal observations, to make "science" what it is today and what we refer to when using this label, "science".

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And faith claims that the universe has already been defined and explained, and we must make scientific discoveries fit into whatever viewpoint that particular faith subscribes to.
An effort strongly revived by the current pope, and also by creationism, of course. Also the Tea Party-kind of America's right, and the Tony Blair clones in Europe.

Isn't it funny that in recent years, Catholicism and Islam work hand in hand to bring a fundament of believing in the deity back to Europe, and that creationsim has been translated into the cultural context of Islam and is blossoming marvellously in the Islamic world, spreading from Turkey mainly? The church time and again acts on behalf of Islam'S sprad in Europe, and preists time and again preach for emebracing Islam as if it were just an oriental version of the curch'S dogma, and Muhammad and Jesus were preaching the same. Every difference, especially the unwelcomed ones, is rejected, ignored.

Mian thing is that people shall believe in a theistic dogma. For the church dogmatists hope to benefit from that in getting a rennaissance of Catholic influence, power, and growing submissiveness and obedience of the devout believers. And many christians with bleeding hearts and praying minds seem to buy it, and celebrate when another church is turned into a mosque, which happens several times per week in some place in europe nowadays. That's when I think of myself as living alone amongst sheep.

Imagine if somebody would dare to turn a mosque into a church! Global crisis, collective mass hysteria! Red faces over alleged hate crimes against humanity!

These christians I mentioned above are cattle that smiles and wags its tail while being led to the butcher. They cannot wait to get there. Stupid people. Kind maybe, well-meaning maybe, but hopelessly stupid, naive, disconnected from reality. Die dümmsten Kälber wählen sich ihre Metzger selber.
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