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Originally Posted by Skybird
I always wonder when reading such postings whether it is really that difficult to argue and defend ones own opinion without distorting what the other said, or whether it is just the easier path of defamation that is being taken due to own laziness or lack of arguments that could hold their ground.
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...me lazy
As for the scientifically based ugly ideologies the argument stands.
I think the few past centuries show and in particular last century.A period when religion was less relevant than earlier that the bloodshed and conquest, including killing on industrial scale had become even more intensive.
In some cases it can be attributed to advancement in weaponry in others to applying Darwinian laws about survival of the strongest races therefore making racism a science ...for example or used in the name of social engineering.Yet the fact is that the "enlightenment" did not really prevent it...sometimes led to it.
The "enlightenment" made religion merely a less effective tool in political game while other ideas replaced them.
I can agree that religion may hold us back when it comes to scientific advancements but i can hardly say that it is root of all evil.
When it comes to Judaism and local (why local is a long story that dates back to 48)orthodox i probably like them even less than you do (not sure though...

)but still they don't try to convert anyone or conquer others.
They simply are closed club that is trying to preserve itself.
God dam it...most of they don't even recognise Israel.
Israel is Zionist sin till Messiah comes to sort things out.
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