[August]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

You mean what we have to some extent be doing for over 40 years?Seems not to have worked very well thus far

Of course they haven't worked because our efforts have been half hearted at best.

post 9/11 they upped the number of Border Patrol by large number that made things much more difficult but they just now use the much harder and more difficult to control routes to smuggle drugs in so long as there is a demand (for drugs and for people wishing to get into the US) the cartels will keep on going seeing as this is their source of income the drugs being the big deal the coyote work is a side deal and also clever way to draw our resources away from pursuing the ones smuggling drugs.

No personal offense intended but your lack of capitalization and punctuation is kind of difficult to follow. I apologize if I accidentally split a sentence between quotes.

I do think you have a point about demand. However we could be a whole lot more effective than we are currently if we actually got serious about it. Throwing a few extra Border patrol agents and building a partial wall is not being serious.

Anything we do now is just about too little too late the cartels already have infiltrated the US a wall will not stop the flow

I disagree. These cartels need to keep up the flow of money or they will quickly wither. Anything we can do to hurt their cash flow will hurt them.

(look at Israel look at East Germany look at Ancient China they all have/had some form of extensive wall border control yet they failed and two of those nations have borders many times smaller than the US ) it might lower it but not stop it they already make use of tunnel networks do ever watch the show Border Wars about the Border Patrol and INS on National Geographic channel?

I haven't seen the show you refer to but the Iron Curtain was a lot more effective than you may have been led to believe. The Great Wall was so long ago it doesn't really apply in modern times. And Israels border is not completed yet so I think it really shouldn't be used as an example here but I am under the impression that it has been pretty effective so far in reducing suicide attacks. I'm sure that MH could provide more detail.

I saw on one episode they followed these two BP agents inside this tunnel that had been found in Arizona after they checked it out and measured its length to the Mexican border (so the concrete guys could fill it) one of the agents told the crew that tunnel filling is such a huge business that there are contractors that only do that type of work they find them every single day how many they do not discover is unknown many that are found are the ones reported by the Mexican police when they find them on the other side so we have to rely on those that are not very reliable to find many.

The fact that the Mexican authorities have to report tunnels tells me that we're not really trying all that hard.

I do not think that the federal government wants to stop fighting the war on drugs any time soon.

Now here we can agree but probably not for the same reasons.

I think the Federal Government doesn't want to stop fighting the WoD because if they did it would mean a big loss of revenue and power hence their half hearted efforts in securing our border and and their constant attempt to block the border states from doing the job themselves.