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Originally Posted by Kazuaki Shimazaki II
So, let's say I conceal carry but get discovered. The proprietor won't be able to call the police because carrying per se is not illegal in this case. However, if he simply deploys his own gun and blows me away, he'll likely have an excellent case by the morals of the state. Even though the sign has no legal force, nevertheless his wishes have been made clear and I went into his property defying them. This makes me an intruder with less than innocent intent, and if he says he felt threatened by my concealed (or even open-carry) gun and blows me away well somehow I think he'll get away with it.
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We need an eyeroll emoticon.
Sorry, not even close here. Hanging a sign does not supercede one's 2nd ammendment rights. The owner, if he/she is a responsible gun owner, would know that. In the straw man scenario above, the proprietor would be charged with some form of murder, depending on the state involved.
The rule of thumb is the definition of self defense, defined as "That force necessary to defend yourself or another person from the threat of death or serious bodily harm." There is no state in the union which would categorize simply noticing a concealed firearm on someone as such a threat.
BTW, I am an NRA, and formerly DoD, certified firearms instructor and rangemaster at my club and for my company.
I have more than a passing knowledge of firearm regulations and laws in the US.
Oh, as to the poll...
If practicable, I would find another establishment in which to spend my money, but if it could not be avoided, I would certainly respect the wishes of the proprietor and lock my weapon in the gunsafe in my vehicle for the duration of my visit.