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Originally Posted by Diopos
Actually my friend (or not) Skybird you know s***t about how the Greeks feel and who they blame, other than what the media say. In the early days of the crisis when there was talk about """technical help""" from Europe and more specifically Germany there were many people here who thought "great bring in the germans and maybe we'll put some order in the place". The mood shifted when parts of the german media started to routinely portray the whole nation in a derogative manner.
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That was no start - that was a provoked reaction.
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For the moment people here are leaving the country, others are putting guns on their heads and pulling the trigger. Don't worry, eventually someone will decide to aim the gun elsewhere. By the way, some of those leaving are finding jobs in Germany. Are you hiring lazy thieves with a tendency to live beyond their means?
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Well, you Greeks seem to vote them into power time and again. Since 40 years and more.
And your guns that somebody will aim elsewhere, hm. You maintain the largest battke tank armada in European NATO, only the Yanks have more MBTs, and most of these tanks you ordered voluntarily, only on the latest tranch the German government demanded you stick to the deal. But most of your tanks are unarmed because your voted politicians managed to not order the needed ammunition. So no matter where you aim your guns - it probably fails to leave a lasting impression.
Your finance minister, btw, has just demanded a third bailout, just days ago. Obviously his former claim that now, finally, all numbers are true, are honest and are brought to light in full, once again was a lie. And whom do you expect to agree to according payments? Us stupid Nazis here in Nazi Germany who are respon sible for all your woes and worries and who stgarted to balk back when you started to call the crminals and Nazis.
As I said in the posting earlier, I fully understand the cataclysmic nature of the international finance system and how it wreaks havoc, and you can see in my remarks that I do not like it one bit, and do not defend it. I also said that what pisses me about Greece was not it's debts, but it's unwillingness to see its own share of respiksnibility, and always pointing fingers at others, and expecting those hands to help that it spits on at the same time.
In other words, what pisses me is the attitude that you just once again has demonstrated. I hold German voters responsible for the votes they cast. I do the same for Greek voters who happily arranged themselves with he corruption and dilettantism since decades.
The stupid leadership, the dysfunctional structure of a society - always is an image of the stupidity of the people who voted for this system, and tolerated the structures of society so long that they could turn dysfunctional. That is true for all the Western nations. And it is true for Greece as well. And the merits of Greece in the past, millenia ago, are history lessons only. No Greek alive has any right to claim credit for what was done in culture and philosophy by foreign people who have lived 80 generations ago. So save me with the pride and greatness of Greece. That is just dead ruins and dust in the wind.
Leave the Euro. Get your own currency, and are free to manipulate your currency to your liking. This step would do punishing damage to the ECB, no worry, we are not in for getting a cheap ride when letting you go - quiotew the opposite. Stop being a lamenting burden for ewverybody, and stop calling others responsible for your very own egoism and your very own failures. Nobody forced you to join the Euro, nobody forced you to vote your fraudsters into office, nobody forced you to gain entrance into the Euro on the basis of lies and forged statistics. Your elected leaders did it, you voted for them, and when they did you all aplauded becasue you thought you had married the big money that from then on you could suck in like babies drink milk. Agreed, many others did think this way, too. But for your decisions, others are not responsible, but only you yourself are.
So, save me your laments and accusations.
BTW, if you have a qualified education and profession that is in need, you are welcomed in Germany still. German business says they are seeking employees with qualification in several branches. Just Greeks lecturing us on why it is our duty to pay for Greece and that we are Nazis if we don't - that is something you better do not do over here currently. Could upset people quite easily, could maybe even get you into trouble here and there. Because especially in the working class many people are fed up with such kind of talking.