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Originally Posted by Mustang
No mean to bump,
but I feel this deserves some of my critique.
Typical American nonsense? Ah, as in Americans were glorified through the film for taking credit for something they didn't do? I don't believe that is typical of just American media.
I feel U-571 was a poor film, because it was fiction based on true events(England caught the Enigma) but movie makers don't care about authenticity they care about box office sales and most movies in that genre do a poor job. But it had some very nice images of WWII vessels. And good sounds.
And if you paid attention about the scene where the U-boat crew are MGing the lifeboat you will see that none of them looked like they wanted to do it(Didn't look like bad guys to me). The movie may not have been historically authentic or written well... But it showed the hard decisions that many COs and crews of that time had to make.
And before you take potshots at another country, make sure your own never does another James Bond film since all of them have some fabricated plot based on historical events and also be sure to watch 'Western Approaches.'
I do agree with some of your commentary about the film but the overall commentary about Americans was quite rude and uncalled for.
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Btw, Crimson Tide seemed rather morally complicated as did The Usual Suspects.
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i think the thing is that the UK stopped producing propoganda regarding WW2 a long time ago--and U571 comes across very much like propoganda--as the USA runs it's economy on a constant war footing--it's not unreasonable to presume it runs it's mass media along similar lines-- it could at least add in some humour (ala James Bond)
propoganda as we know is not the place for complex morality-
they could have displayed the german crew in the film handing out fresh water emergency rations and even warm dry clothing to the survivors in the life boat--and that would have put an entirely different complexion on the following events in the film--
it is the tendency for this "setting up" emotionaly/morally of the characters in a vast trough of films as "the bad guys" immediately prior to introducing the "good guys" who are going to see to it that the situation is "sorted"
that renders the emotional and moral content of the film (and others) as simplistic and not disimilar to primitive proganda--
i'm sure it's not rude to mention this as it is perfectly normal to see this sort of thing in films etc---the point is how often is it seen--it's the tendency for the American media to repeat this trick endlessly that makes it interesting and unusual--
mind you these days very little of any great merit is produced by any-one american or other wise!!
it's been a long time since we saw the likes of "tora tora tora"