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Originally Posted by August
Maybe you feel differently but I don't think the assassination of a scientist, especially by persons unknown, is a justification for a nuclear war, which is what a nuclear deterrent is all about.
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Worse, it'S circular logic what Sammi said. The attempt to prevent/defend against the Iranian nuclear weapopn program becomes his argument what Iran wants to get them? If Iran would not grab for nukes, there would be (and have not been!) no targetted assassinations, cyberattacks, mysterious explosions of missiles ranges and the like.
On past wars. Israel now exists since more than two generations. More than two generations mived and sometimes died in and for Israel now. One could consider to discuss the legitimacy of the method in which it was installed after 2 or 3 or 5 years, but the Muslim Palestinians - which as an ethnic group or race or cultiural group anr non-existent, because in reality they are simply
Arabs - have almost nobody anymore who can make any claims of circumnstances over how it once was and how he witnessed it. To question Israel'S right to exist today would mean to commit another , a new great injuzstice - to those many people who in the past 70 years turned Israel into what it is now. One is crying wolf over the "Palestinians" - but to repoeat the "cxrimne" agains them now again, this time against Israelis most of which had not say or hand in the evnts after WWII - this is pretty much okay for Westerners these days?
Guys, get real. Time has moved on. The houses and homes to which some people still claim to have the keys, have stopped to be there sinc elong before the same people, nmost of them, got even born. And the overwhelming majhority of thoese peple that today get labelled as "Palestinians" - in fact as migrants from Arabab neighbouring places who moved into the "occupied" territories AFTER the Israel state was founded. That they additionally multiply like rabbits without having the ifnratrsurcture and logistical and economical and sovereing financial basis to maintain and keep alive such a communal, national entitity, does not help anyone either.
It is all about creating an argument Israel against by mere numbers, by the crowds and masses. That most of them have an origin that had little or nothign to do with Palestine before the Israeli state was founded, for some reasons is of no concern for most commentators. We have seen the same in Kosovo, which later was claimed to be "Alabanians". That almost 80-90% of those Albenians now living in Kosovo have moved their from alabnian
after the Yugoslavian republic was brought to its knees, while bringing Serbian control of Kosovo to an end over an argument that it already were so very much Albanian while in reality back then it was not, for some strange reason never gets reported.
I can only say once again:
demographics and migration are WEAPONS. They do not make an effect as quickly as the impact of a bomb, but they make a much more pressing and long-lasting effect than even a thousand bombs. And there is no military defence against the, and poltical defence against them can easily be brandmarked as racism. That'S why demographis and migration get used as weapons. It'S a win - win situation for the side using them.