I think Dangerous Waters is the answer to the civilian market.
We do not need more complicated sims and belive me if they make it really real we all must go to the Naval Academy
We are taliking about realism in other threads and everybody agrees that we have to have a common gorund to ensure gameplay.
I fly real simulators and I also try the latest commercial PC simulators and well, they are not even close one to the other.
The most realistic flight sim I know, Falcon (now Allied Force) does not draw hords of people because of its dificulty and anyway it is not the real thing about complexity.
I do not think the Navy wants its sailors and officers to have fun while training on this utility so I doubt any of us would.
Anyway for those that are really ready for maximum realism and complexity I strongly suggest you
APOLLO 18
There you will be really tested on realism and complexity.
Of course if you can accomplish even to lift off from the ground.
I love the way the sim it is right now.