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Originally Posted by Catfish
Hallo Skybird,
nachträglich noch Glueckwunsch zum Geburtstag
The Bialetti machine looks really nice, i have an older one that looks similar, but not with that center "venting hole" (?) in the above tank's lid.
Are you sure that when the water boils, there are 15-19 bar in it ?
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Thanks!
I never said or wanted to say the Bialetti has 9-15 Bar. I said the old Bilaetti Muka Express have 1.5 Bar, and the new Brikka have around 6 Bar. Espresso machines (=Siebträger) have 14-15 Bar at the bgeginning of the inside water-cacles, and when the water reaches the poweder, it has lost pressure and then should have 9 Bar by which to be pressed through the powder.
I tasted the Brikka qwith several coffees now, with very varied results. With two types it was impossible for me to see cream, two made medium crema that did not last long, and one made some good crema which again lived not long. But: I also became aware that it is a very great difference how fine or coarse the grind is, and I cannot even say that it should be the one or the other in general. With Robusta-rich coffee it maybe is more coarse, with less Robusta it probably should be a bit finer. But I am not sure so far. What I can say is that the Brikka makes very tasty, very very good coffee, crema or not. Even if I fail on doing crema like the guy in the video, I will not be disappointed.
Yesterday I ordered an electric grinder, and when I came back from town this midday (with a manual grinder in my Rucksack, a Hario Skerton with ceramic grinder), the postday already had stored the electric Grinder as well. And I have to say the Graefe CM 80 is both surprisngly cheap, and fantastic. Everything silver on the picture is not plastic or thin alumium tin, but is massive alumium. Manufatcuring quality is very good, handling is wonderful, noise is surpringly low for an eletric grinder, an the results are fan-tas-tic. 24 levels from stellar powder to very coarse.
It has an automatic setting, just push in a box, and it starts to grind. The often heraede complaint about electrostatic I avoid by using a glass or grinding directly into the filter. Super, cheaper than the often claimed favourite champions, and superb results. Best buy!
The Skerton is a great handgrinder, too, but with two limitations. It specialises in doing fine grind, finer than normal filter coffee and french press, the particles are too different in sizes when doing cpoarse grind, but for fine grind, the rersult is almost perfect. And it is not fast to switch between different settings, this one is meant to see some experiments and trial and error, finding a setting which you want to use - and then keep that setting, if you want: forever.
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A friend of mine just got him such a "Nespresso" machine:
http://www.coffeemachineforsale.co.u...ttissima-en670
Disadvantage is you have to buy those capsules, but it really tastes phantastic !
I am thinking of getting an older SAECO with included grinder, so fresh-grinded beans and no capsules. But i must admit from the taste the Nespressos are difficult to beat.
Greetings,
Kai
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Personally I am no fan of the Nespressos, not only do they say there are problems with hygienics, but I find them lame by taste. Friends of mine use them, but they admit they use them for reasons of comfort only. And I think this is the real argument in capsuled coffee. Me, I like the ceremony of creating tea, or coffee or espresso. And as I just learned again these days: nothing beats the aroma of freshly grinded coffee from beans roasted just few days ago! Curently the stairhouse of my living house, and my appartement all smells deliciously of coffee. Neighbours already have asked me what I were doing.
They already had asked me when I started to make Pizza some months ago!
If you mean to buy a "Vollautomat", then be careful. These are build with so much plastic inlife, that they cannot stand the pressures of 9-15 Bar needed for creating Espresso. It seems many people do not know this when considering "Vollautomaten". Also, these machines are difficult or even tricky to clean
inside, somethign that needs to be done frequently. Coffee oils are nothing to make jokes about.

Some people even say cleaning them borders technical maintenance work. I personally never felt tempted to go for such a machine. Get a good grinder, or two, if you do different grinds frequently or use different beans. And then a reasonable "Siebträger". Find your beans and your settings, and then you're done! No digital gimmicks needed.