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Originally Posted by Tribesman
Who still babbles about socialism?
Apart from the fringe who think everything they don't like or don't get is socialism.
Hey, who babbles...its bubbles 
That is why most people who think would advocate a mixed system not the same lame ones again and again, the problem of course being finding the right mix that would work |
Not sure what your point is, unless you're trying to tell me that relabeling it once again is going to make it fundamentally different from all of its previous failed incarnations. You can call it "social democratism", "progressivism", "liberalism", "national socialism", whatever you want, even though it's going to be quite a challenge to come up with one that hasn't already been tried at least once, it's still not going to be any different from the rest.
Which, at last count, have caused the deaths of at least 150 million people but, hey, we just haven't found the right "mixture" yet.
It's always "but that's not really socialism" with the likes of you. It's always something else. Something impure, some perversion of your inevitably wonderful ideals. None of the failures count because they weren't caused by "real" socialism, whatever that might be. Other than some dream society in which nobody has to work and everybody pays their way by plucking off money from a tree in their back yard.
In the Soviet Union, the party apparatchiks always went on and on about how everybody would reach "true socialism" any day now. They became the party of "Utopia of Next Tuesday" as a result. Always just out of reach, only
one more adjustment and it would be finally here.
But who am I to try to destroy your faith in Santa Claus, your unshakable belief that just one more five year plan, just one more tiny adjustment to the mixture will finally make lead turn into gold?
Just don't insist that the rest of us have to suffer while you wait for Utopia of Next Tuesday to arrive.
I've had quite enough of that.