[makman94]

Originally Posted by Graf Paper

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Since SH3's engine does not take latitude into account, this fix is as good as it gets and I'm amazed it could be done at all.

Very well done, h.sie, Rubini, and Makman!

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ahoy there Graf Paper ! nice to see you around again after so long time ! how are you mate ?

yes , Graf Paper ,given the limitations of sh3's engine what you see here is way much more than the one we were looking for during the development of this mod . H.Sie found the best solution we can ever hope and as for the detection ranges during night...etc this is something that now can be easily adjusted ! But before it was just impossible and without doupt this mod is a huge step forward !

in fact , you have in front of you the best (and i mean it 100%) mod ever made for sh3 and most of people are failing to 'see' it !
anyway ...it will take time but sooner or later you will see it to be at the no1 of 'must have' mods

Originally Posted by Kafka BC

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Somewhere in this thread I read a statement that you can see a 35 meter high mast at 31 kilometers. I wrote that down just so I can check it, so lets do that using the previously mentioned Distance to the Horizon Calculator. A 35 meter height gives a figure of 21.1 kilometers for the over the horizon distance, add that to the 8 kilometers from the bridge lookouts yields 29.1 kilometers.....

hi Kafka ,
yes it was me who wrote it and i will tell you the why . the 'calculator' at your link is a simple one and is not giving you very accurate results becuase it uses the geometrical formulas for calculating the distances.

go to this link here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizon
read carefully the article there and then scroll down a bit where it says ''Effect of atmospheric refraction'' were it gives some simplified formulas that are taking in account the atmospheric refraction
there i used the simple formulas d=3.86*sqrt(h)
so
d1=3.86*sqrt(5)= 8,63 km
d2=3.86*sqrt(35)= 22,836 km

d1+d2= more than 31 km
and that is a more valid distance than the geometrical one thats why i said more than 31 km
(of course the theme is much more complicated but i think that the above formulas are the best for using and giving fast-good accurate reality results)

Originally Posted by Kafka BC

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- Single ship 6 miles (9.6 kilometers)
- 8-ship convoy 11 miles (17.6 kilometers)
- 64-ship convoy 23 miles (36,8 kilometers)

that is very interesting finding and sure will help us but i want to ask: i assume that these ranges are for day, and i don't understand why a 8-ship convoy is spotted from 20.4 km (11miles=20,4 km) and why a 64-ship convoy is spotted from 42.6 km (23miles=42,6 km).
what makes the difference ? the tallest ship will be spotted first no matter if convoy has 8 or 64 ships , ....no ?

Originally Posted by Kafka BC

The previous chapter to the above article is interesting in that it shows that the sweep width (which is double the the effective range of contact) around a submarine at night is 9.4 miles (15 kilometers). Halving that gives 7.5 kilometers which is close to the visual distance to the horizon from a U-Boat's bridge.

thats also an interesting finding Kafka !
so according to this article we have vissuality at night at about 9,4/2=4.7miles= 8,7 km ( 9,4miles = 17.4km)


so , by using your data Kafka i would say that if the max range that we can see at day is 42,6km and this is reducing to 8,7 km at night then ,accordinally, a 16km environment (vissuality at day = 16km max) must be reduced to 3,27 km at night (if we want to have 'balanced' day-night).
don't you agree with this or i missed something ? please explain