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Catfish · 01-31-12, 08:06 AM

Hello,
first i do not know why Blair sometimes writes what he writes, i think he got some reports wrong. U-96 did neither try to sneak through Gibraltar with Buchheim aboard, nor was Buchheim aboard a submarine at the bottom near Gibraltar - at least that is what i read, by B. himself.
Do not take the novel "Das Boot" for completely real, and surely not the film (rivets giving in, in a welded boat ?). For all i have read Johann's reaction seem badly exagerrated, as well general discipline aboard those boats was high, even if the tone itself was sometimes un-militarily. More a kind of respect regarding the other's capabilities. This does not mean that the captain did not indeed have a pistol, and was allowed to use it in cases of mutiny or critical situations. For what has been written, it was never used.

Second, the 338 meters are from Tiesenhausen's log book, partly published in (among others) Frank's "Die Woelfe und der Admiral". The U-331 went down at a steep angle, so the bow may have been deeper than the central part of the boat, anyway a good 300 meters seem believable.

Greetings,
Catfish

01-31-12, 08:06 AM	#22
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,799 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Hello, first i do not know why Blair sometimes writes what he writes, i think he got some reports wrong. U-96 did neither try to sneak through Gibraltar with Buchheim aboard, nor was Buchheim aboard a submarine at the bottom near Gibraltar - at least that is what i read, by B. himself. Do not take the novel "Das Boot" for completely real, and surely not the film (rivets giving in, in a welded boat ?). For all i have read Johann's reaction seem badly exagerrated, as well general discipline aboard those boats was high, even if the tone itself was sometimes un-militarily. More a kind of respect regarding the other's capabilities. This does not mean that the captain did not indeed have a pistol, and was allowed to use it in cases of mutiny or critical situations. For what has been written, it was never used. Second, the 338 meters are from Tiesenhausen's log book, partly published in (among others) Frank's "Die Woelfe und der Admiral". The U-331 went down at a steep angle, so the bow may have been deeper than the central part of the boat, anyway a good 300 meters seem believable. Greetings, Catfish Last edited by Catfish; 01-31-12 at 09:28 AM.