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Old 01-30-12, 08:22 AM   #54
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Nonsensical Hyperbole, pure and unadulterated.

Religion = cruelty: the Inquisition being only one of many examples.

Religion = selfishness: the treatment of the masses in the majority of Catholic countries where Church owned wealth benefited the Church without regards for the principles of Christian charity espoused by that same church.

Religion = murderous nature: witness the slaughter of Christian Armenians by Islamic Turks, Orthodox pograms against the Jews, and Catholic slaughter of Mezo-Americans.

Religion does not allow men to transcend anything, it engenders fear and superstition that aids in producing atrocities and mayham. It retards civilization and we need to outgrow it, totally, completely and unequivocally.

Of course the faithful will spin the record in an attempt to show that these cases and all the others were man exercising god-given free will but it's really hard to see how that helps the victims, who presumably were shot, burnt, impaled, beheaded and starved because god wanted them to be. Or does free will only apply to perpetrators of violence and abuse?
Did Religion drive Joseph Mengele?
We know how the human body reacts to freezing because of his experiments at Dachau and Auschwitz which cost the lives of approximately one hundred people.
Did Religion drive Unit 731?
Their research on the effects of biological warfare earned many of them pardons and stays of execution after the war from the United States. The number of people killed by their experiments is estimated at around five hundred thousand.

Does the all embrace of science mean that human experimentation is permissible? If so, then what are the criteria? Prisoners? That's a start, but why stop there?

Science is not evil, Religion is not evil, mankind can be very evil.
At the reverse end of the spectrum we have many instances where Science has lead to fantastic advances in humanity which have benefited many without suffering to some...but certainly medically speaking, most of our advances are done on the suffering of humans and animals alike.
Likewise we have instances where religion has inspired people to make great sacrifices for the benefit of others.

Religion and Science have little to do with the evils in the world, we're quite capable of making them without their help.
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