SH 4 was awful out of the box, I was a noob to subsims so was hooked but found the glaring issues annoying, esp once I read up on sub warfare, it left me with a WTF look but still loved it.After a while I moved into MODS and mods like TMO , RSRD, RFB, just saved the game.For those of us who prefer fleetboats, SH 4 with mods, well it's a godsend.I like U boats but just have much more fun in the Pacific against the Empire. Best part is, we will have plenty to look forward to with the IJN mod coming out sometime, the WW I mod, We Dive at Dawn is if you want to play things from the Brit perspective, RFB and TMO will no doubt will improved upon
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