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Skybird · 12-18-05, 11:25 AM

That guy was waiting for over 15 years to get killed. As if that is not penalty enough, already.

Deathpenalty is a term that is contradictory in itself. Penalty is a measurement you take to sanction and change the behavior of someone, or it is meant to make him compensate for the damage he has done. Killing him means he cannot change behavior, and it is no compensation as well. Thus death is not a penalty, but an act of simple revenge (which to me is all to often the case with executions), or a preemptive action. Next step is to burn people in order to clean their souls. I could eventually live with preemptive execution of maximum level-criminals under certain requirements: for example hindering a drug baron to control his business from inside a prison, or hindering free criminals to commit crimes in order to get the prisoner free, if he is a very dangerous criminal, or to protect the community of a highly dangerous individual of whom it is to be assumed that he would continue his dangerous deeds once he became free again. But death is no penalty. And to many death sentences have prooved to be wrong in the past. If a penalty is wrong, it turns the procedure into slaughter.

Schwarzenegger looked at it and saw that most Californians support death"penalty". He also wants to get reelected. so he decided to get that guy killed in order to increase his chances, at least not lowering them by stopping the execution. IMO, and basing on what I said above, that is an act of clear and intended murder. He "geht über Leichen" to continue his political career.

We will never know now how many youngster now will NOT be hindered by TW's example or his books to join a gang and start a criminal career - TW's books are known even in Germany to at least some professional social workers. Killing him after he had changed and influenced many young ones to keep away from gangs was the most stupid of all options. It also gives a clear message: it does not mean anything if you change yourself in prison and become a better man - community and state will let you down anyway and have their revenge: so why even try?

12-18-05, 11:25 AM	#7
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,664 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	That guy was waiting for over 15 years to get killed. As if that is not penalty enough, already. Deathpenalty is a term that is contradictory in itself. Penalty is a measurement you take to sanction and change the behavior of someone, or it is meant to make him compensate for the damage he has done. Killing him means he cannot change behavior, and it is no compensation as well. Thus death is not a penalty, but an act of simple revenge (which to me is all to often the case with executions), or a preemptive action. Next step is to burn people in order to clean their souls. I could eventually live with preemptive execution of maximum level-criminals under certain requirements: for example hindering a drug baron to control his business from inside a prison, or hindering free criminals to commit crimes in order to get the prisoner free, if he is a very dangerous criminal, or to protect the community of a highly dangerous individual of whom it is to be assumed that he would continue his dangerous deeds once he became free again. But death is no penalty. And to many death sentences have prooved to be wrong in the past. If a penalty is wrong, it turns the procedure into slaughter. Schwarzenegger looked at it and saw that most Californians support death"penalty". He also wants to get reelected. so he decided to get that guy killed in order to increase his chances, at least not lowering them by stopping the execution. IMO, and basing on what I said above, that is an act of clear and intended murder. He "geht über Leichen" to continue his political career. We will never know now how many youngster now will NOT be hindered by TW's example or his books to join a gang and start a criminal career - TW's books are known even in Germany to at least some professional social workers. Killing him after he had changed and influenced many young ones to keep away from gangs was the most stupid of all options. It also gives a clear message: it does not mean anything if you change yourself in prison and become a better man - community and state will let you down anyway and have their revenge: so why even try? __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.