[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by U-214

With the logic of "what if Bush's illegal actions

Stop right there. Again, please clarify what was illegal?

But let's assume so for argument's sake and continue.....

had saved us from a terrorist attack",maybe you should consider also having video surveillance and bugs in your houses.The terrorists would have much more trouble comunicating freely...

Everything has its limits and its consequences. That's true in everything in life. Get used to it. That is not to say that anyone should automatically be absolved from illegalities but sometimes being a civilized human being calls for breaking rules, not adhering to them.

I thought that the condition in Israel

Weeeeeeeeeeeeee. Look at him jump! :hmm:

has proven that there is no effective weapon against someone who wants to blow himself up.

Quite the contrary! The security fence has reduced the cases of terrorist attacks tremendously and saved Israel from dozens of homocide bomber attempts since its inception.

Try researching before posting.

And what is your point anyway? That nothing can stop terrorists? You should try reading daily newspapers before posting, too.

Of course,you can continue to follow Macchiavelli-like dogmas,like the "who cares if it's illegal as long as it might prove useful",

But I do care and I did not say I don't. Go ahead and quote where I said I don't care.

but you can forget about the way of life you had or democracy for what matters.Are you going to get used to the sight of road blocks and Abrams tanks in the streets following the Israeli dogma too?Good luck.You 're going to need it.The fact that US hasn't been attacked since 9/11 isn't because of Bush's spying on comunications,but of a choise of them or maybe a megalomany of Laden who likes hollywood-like attacks,while a less glamorous car bomb could have much impact and be very easy to do (unless you make roadblocks and check all incoming vehicles from "suspicious" neighbourhoods like they do in Israel).

Enjoy your safe Utopia...........................................

Also,instead of sacrificing your civil liberties and rights,you should ask yourselves,how did you get there in the first place and why the terrorists attacked USA and not Switzerland.Terrorists are fanatics,but nobody is born terrorist nor they are schizofrenic.

The answer is Islam and leave schizos out of this.