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Originally Posted by Neptunus Rex
..."The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) said eavesdropping in the US without a court order and without complying with the procedures of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act was "both illegal and unconstitutional"...
The same ACLU that considers the public display of Christmas Trees to be illegal?  |
First, I don't see any contradiction in the two ideas.
Second, the ACLU does not consider the display of Christmas Trees to be illegal. What it fight against is the support of a religion by the government - and, by extension, by public services and agencies - of the United States. As forbidden by some obscure article of law.
You can display a tree all you want. But the government, a publically funded school or a courthouse cannot use tax-payer funded ressources to promote a religion - And yes, that might include a Christmas tree, unless efforts are made to make the display non-denominational.
A boatload of people would get angry if the local post office had a ramadan display. It's the same damn thing. The government cannot support a religion, any religion. Christian or otherwise.
And that's a damn good principle of law. I wish Canada had it.
As for randomly listening to people's conversations - There's a thing called the right to privacy, and... I don't remember the wording, and I don't have the US constitution bookmarked anymore (DONE! DONE with Poli-sci!), but... Illegal search and seizure, anyone?
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Unless its members of your family that are killed in one of the terror attacks it prevented...
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It's hard to be killed in a terrorist attack that didn't take place. You have to be REALLY unlucky.
What you're doing is a crass appeal to sentiments ; there is no way to know who, if anyone, would have been killed in those "Terrorist attacks". Would they have ever taken place? Who knows. Would attempts really have been made to perpetrate them?
Randomly listening in on law-abidding citizens is kind of akin to randomly arresting people and interrogating them. Just to check. Or randomly searching people on the street - Once in a while, just once in a while, you might catch someone with a knife, and that knife could have been used to kill someone!
So what if the guy had just borrowed it from a friend to carve a turkey? If he'd killed members of your familly with it, you'd think otherwise!