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Originally Posted by mookiemookie
So when people say that they don't pay taxes, you just keep narrowing the definition of "taxes" until you're right.
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When I say that, I mean exactly what I say, they pay no income taxes. This is true. In many cases they pay NEGATIVE income taxes.
Payroll taxes are kept separate so they can talk about them differently, when in fact they should just be lumped. heck, the very notion of an "employer contribution" is BS for the credulous so they think they pay less, and they are "sticking it to the boss."
It still doesn't matter. My effective rate with FICA and income tax is still way higher than someone that pays no income tax. In return I will lose money on SS instead of coming out ahead. That's straight cash in vs cash out, that does not count opportunity costs for what that money could have made.
The people who pay no income tax pay no income tax. They don't pay a fair share of
anything. They don't pull even their own weight. Their entitlement receipts are entirely subsidized, as is every government service they get. They are a net drain on the federal government, regardless of what they pay in payroll/sales taxes.
The only people that actually deserve a say in how government money is spent are those that at least pull their own weight, or even those that pay more in than they personally get out (over a lifetime).