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Originally Posted by magicstix
This statement could not be more antithetical to the American spirit. Such a mentality is what is so pervasive on the left with their view that the government should control every aspect of our lives.
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If I'm understanding you correctly (and I might be way off the mark lol) you think my statement is either a bad thing or an untruth, or both? Certainly contrary to what makes america such a great place (you'll forgive the phrasing - I couldn't think of a more diplomatic way to put it

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I'd say it was quite correct - everyone bangs on about established rights (not just over there with you guys, but here in the UK too), my right, your rights, enshrined rights, constitutional rights, the list goes on. However the rights of the individual only stretch so far as they don't impinge upon other individuals; and in the case of governments, only as far as it suits them to grant
you rights. Rights which governments will quite happily rescind at any time if they feel the justification to do so, hence they are
privileges and not rights.
As one example, ask any japanese american about his rights back in 1942.
People can be snide about who is a 'citizen' and who is a 'subject', but you cannot say that under either system, you have any more or less entitlement to rights in a democratic system. Governments will more or less do as they please when they make laws; from the rights to personal freedoms of individuals and groups, to corporate taxation and healthcare. Sure you have the right to have your voice ignored