[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

Tell me - how will taking the wealth of corporations or the "rich" create jobs?

It's not about taking the wealth from the rich. It's about them paying their fair share. Why does a multibillion dollar corporation pay no taxes? Why do they receive corporate welfare when corporate profits are at record highs? Meanwhile, schools are overcrowded, bridges are crumbling, property taxes are going up in order to make up the shortfall. How is that even remotely fair to ask those with the least ability to pay to take up the slack of those getting a free ride?

How will trusting the politicians who sat by and watched this happen the first time, with the expectation that they are going to fix it now - going to help?

You're missing the point now. The point is telling the politicians that we're not going to put up with them sitting back and collecting lobbyist dollars without reigning in the excesses. If they refuse to listen, they'll be replaced.

How is taxing every "millionaire" - when the vast majority of them are small business owners who don't MAKE a million - but simply have a REVENUE of 1 million or more - going to help our economy?

How is shifting the tax burden on to the lower and middle class going to help it? You have to tax and cut spending on them a hell of a lot more to make up the revenue lost by letting people like GE get away with paying no tax at all.

What's amazing is that you want to refuse to THINK about this

No, I've thought about it and I reject your viewpoint.

and instead react with "well company XYZ didn't pay any taxes, they should PAY!" - yes they should

Damn skippy

- so lets agree to end all the loopholes.

Yay!

But who put the loopholes there? Lobbyists ask for em - but POLITICIANS put them there because they are the ones that write the laws!

And who wouldn't be against crony capitalism?

Want to say business screwed us? Fine - but guess what - if so, they did it (in most cases) legally - which while you don't like it, and I don't like it - your angst should be pointed at the ones who wrote (and enforced - or in this case - failed to enforce) those laws.

It is. But it takes two to tango. Politicians aren't going to work for you unless you pay them off. That's the WHOLE POINT of the protests. It's letting them know that they work for US, and that money and politics DON'T mix.

This whole OWS is all about jealousy - take from those rich cats, but don't touch my $5500 macbook. Whats theirs is mine and whats mine is mine. Its not justice, its selfishness. Course you avoided that whole discussion, didn't you.......

Because it's absolute bullschitt and has no substance. Ending crony capitalism is jealousy? What planet do you live on? Thinking something's wrong when unemployment is at multi-generational highs yet corporate profits and income for the top 1% of earners is at multi-generational highs is jealousy? No, it's pointing out that there's a disconnect in the system.

Watch this:

This whole corporate welfare thing is all about jealousy - take from the taxpayers, but don't touch my profits. Whats theirs is mine and whats mine is mine. Socialize the losses and privatize the profits. Its not justice, its selfishness. Course you avoided that whole discussion, didn't you.......

Has anyone noticed that the crowd is generally 20 somethings and 40+ somethings? Those of us in "Generation X" - labelled slackers and whatnot so long ago - are the ones that are keeping this country afloat. 99% my a$$ - OWS has had so many polls done in it - by the left and right both - and it consistently polls as hard, hard left. 30+% support violence to take from the "rich". 65% support government funded higher education and health care to all - regardless of the cost.

Has anyone noticed that the opportunities for 20 somethings are not there like they were for 20 somethings in generations past because of the situation they're protesting? You don't think they're going to be a little pissed off over that fact? There's been studies that have shown that this will be the first generation to earn less than their parents. You don't think that something's changed?

Its nothing more than the old hippies and the new hippies, just with different hairdo's, screaming in the streets like they did in the 60's, while the silent majority looks on with disdain. The silent majority will speak again soon. And the left won't like it.

The silent majority is dying off every day, taking with it the fear and hatred and ignorance that it revels in.

If government oversight failed - why is more government oversight the answer then Mookie?

Did you read anything I posted? If lack of government oversight helped cause the failure, how is more lack of it the answer?