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Originally Posted by mookiemookie
So where does "bail out the rich and let them continue to screw everyone" fit into that story? Because I don't know if you were paying attention over the past 3 years or so, but that's kind of what's happened.
The rich have taken from everyone else - they blow up the economy and now are back to doing better than ever, while everyone else gets to pick up the pieces and gets stuck with the tab. Where's that fit into the story?
Why are you okay with money having more say in politics than your vote? Seriously, how is that okay or at all how the Founders intended the country to work. I'd love to hear the explanation, because you're sure defending that system pretty hard.
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Now this is where you and I actually agree 100% - the bailouts should not have ever happened. If its a business in a capitalist system, then it should live and die on its own merits. I was just as against Tarp and QE/QE2 as anyone. I was against government bailouts of GM.
We can agree those were wrong. However - GOVERNMENT made those happen. Yes - the wall streeters had lobbyists - but lobbyists don't enact legislation - politicians do! The wall street crowd used the system - it was the politicians who sold us out! Thats why we conservatives say the OWS folks are protesting in the wrong place.
Where we differ - is the solution. Regulate them? Where the hell were Frank and Dodd while this happend? It was their job to be providing oversight - they didn't so now they pass laws to increase oversight. Oversight and regulation doesn't help when the people entrusted to do it are asleep at the wheel. Instead - it simply makes our economy struggle more with the burden. For the OWS crowd the answer is take from the rich. We got shafted - shafting someone else (who committed no crime - just used the system that the politicians put into place) isn't going to fix anything. Ultimately - this is a case of 2 wrong's don't make a right (which OWS would create) and while I can understand the angst of the OWS crowd, they are targeting the wrong people with the wrong solutions.