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Old 10-13-11, 07:24 PM   #37
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That is indeed a good example. Hezbollah deliberately used that UN position as a shield from which to launch their missiles and when Israel shot back it's vilified for it.
Yes they should be vilified for it, both the terrorists and the IDF were wrong, both need to be condemned, just as it needs to be condemned when the IDF use human shields or terrorists fire anyway.

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Do you think the UN should allow its installations to be used like that? Would the French Army allow it's installations to be used like that?
Would the American Army allow it? You were a military man you should know what rules of engagement mean, you should know they are supposed to be followed.
If you want those UN posts to do more than observe and report than get the governments to change their mandate.
Unless you are willing to pressure your government into giving the UN troops more power then you cannot complain that they are not doing enough.
The mere fact that the UNTSO officers(like the 4 killed that day) are not even allowed to carry weapons shows how much governments hamstring the UN

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Israel is fascinating place for many.....somehow.
Yes because the crap going on there for the past few decades has seriously impacted every western nation whereas some bunch of nuts fighting over the western sahara tends to have pretty much bugger all impact elsewhere.

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If the UN were neutral,l it would have been their obligation to clear their facilities of Hezbollah fighters all by themselves.
The Israelis claimed Hezballah were in the vicinity of the facility not in it(which is better than a later incident where they shelled somewhere because terrorists had been seen there several weeks ago), those officers with the UN were under one set of rules and were un armed, if it was a different set of troops with a different UN body they would be under a different mandate and could under certain circumstances shoot people.
If you want to blame anyone blame the countries on the security council and blame Israel and Lebanon as it is all of them that made the agreements and set up the terms and conditions.

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I also recall that there were repeated complaints by the Israelis...
It is always important to follow up on complaints you recall being made as they often turn out to be bollox. Read any of the mandated six monthly reports of all the incidents and all the complaints along the line and see how many complaints from both sides get dropped as soon as the checking of facts begins.
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