Hello,
Kiwi, you are certainly right
, i do not want to "explain the world" to others, nor do i think my view is the one and only (and maybe i'd used the bucket). And the subsim forum is maybe a strange place for this, but then it is the only forum where you can freely discuss such themes.
Again, i did not want to hurt anybody's feelings. This is only my point of view, and i will not look down upon anyone who has another belief. I do believe in god, i just have another view of things, blame it on the evolution classes during my studies
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But it just is as someone wrote when he visited the shores of scotland, looking for fossils - being asked by a local fishermen what he had found, and how old it was he said something of 165 million years. The answer was quick: "So you do not believe in god". What i see now is this man obviously believed in creationism or at least at the world being quite young.
Reading Schroder's article from Avon lady's link as well as others i just find the way of thinking strange. You can see that the earth is such a perfect place for man, so it must have been made for him, together with all living and (some now dead) animals. In my opinion it is the other way round, man would not be man as we know it if the "outside world" or environment would have been different, or would have developed in a different way. It is a survival of the best adapted, or the fittest relating to their environment - and certainly not the strongest.
As far as we know the earth is 4.5 Billions of years old, the first lifeforms appeared 3.5 bill. years ago. When the "cambrian explosion" (sudden appearance of different organisms, or better preservable ones which's rests we can find today) happened, there were some general layout plans that developed or became extinct. After this there were no real new plans or so Schroeder writes.
Apart of being wrong he claims that this is meant by god's creation of all animals "at a moment". But he comfortably does not explain how dinosaurs lived with human beings at a time amongst other contradictions, like creationism wants it to be. So Schroeder or Judaism's theory is non-creationist, at least Schroeder admits some kind of evolution (?).
Again there seem to be a hundred theories about creation even within creationists? The question for creationists seem to be if the selection was done by some "intelligent" power, or better god.
I got the venganza link from a site Avon lady mentioned, and i just had a look at the "hate mail" , OMG
Maybe we should quickly stop this thread.
Greetings,
Catfish