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Originally Posted by Skybird

the one thing that angers me the most about that day is the lack of longterm understanding on side of the Japanese . they lost the war on day one.

But you, yourself, has just made an extremely short-sighted statement! Just don't get angry with yourself. :rotfl:

You believe Japan lost the war? The Emperor lost his absolute powers, facism was burried and Japan became the second economy in the world, how can this be a loss? If Japan never attacked maybe today it would be a feudal xintoist monarchy, stuck back in time like some regions in the interior of China, or Tibet. The military war may have been lost, but the national war, the political war, was definitely won, even if not a victory over any other country, but a victory against Japan itself.

Now if you look at Russia, the Soviet Union "won" the war, but what can Russia say they've gained from the WW2 victory? They were saved from extermination? Were they? Or did their own kind continued to exterminate themselves? Can Poland cheer the Russian victory?

Military victory or defeat means nothing but a waste of life and material, what looks like a defeat can be a victory and a false victory can be in fact a defeat.

I never bought any pathos or understood why the slaughtering and mass killing of war is more civilized if there is papers traded before.

Because there was a time when men went to war for hobby, or because they didn't really spoke each other's language to try to understand their differences and similarities, and if you're going to war, why not make it less of a hell? Why ban explosive bullets then? Why ban gas bombs? Why sign the geneva convention? Why should we avoid to target the civilian population if WW2 proved it was so effective? In the least it is POLITE to give a declaration of war, we are all humans, not slaughtering mass killing machines of doom.

In war I would not hesiate to shoot my enemy in the back when he sleeps and lies on his belly - no method is more safe.

In peace the safest method is not to go to war at all, but your method is good if you want to exterminate the enemy, but how about getting prisioners? Wouldn't you rather capture one or two to trade for one of your own? Who would you consider your enemy? The enemy soldier? What makes the guy dressed in a different uniform your enemy? If you come to a war where you have to shoot your enemy in his back and kill him when he sleeps and lies on his belly your only enemy is yourself, for allowing this situation to happen, where you are already defeated by having to shoot your enemy in the back.

I also don't see much difference between the Japanese action back then, and contemporary politics today. It's always about hiding your strike.

Better than paper-less slaughtering mass killing conflicts isn't it?