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Ducimus · 12-01-05, 03:02 PM

I think theres alot of randomization were dealing with:

1. State of the seas.

First and foremost i think this is biting me in the ass. Wave factor and probably noise factor play a major role here, and i think theres a degree of randomization to it. Im slowling whitling down these figures. Right now im trying 0.4 noise factor and 0.20 wave factor.

If anyone wants to experiment and hasnt tried this yet, try zeroing out wave factor. I think what you might find is when you get a certain distance to a DD (say within 2K radius), no amount of creeping or silent running is going to work.. at least thats the conclusion my experiments have lead me to. If anyone can duplicate that, i think its a step forward.

2. Crew rating
Im of the conclusion that theres a randomization percentage assoicated with how well a DD can detect you based on crew rating. The lower the crew the greater the random factor (odds in your favor), the higher the crew, the less random percentage (odds not in your favor). But even with crew rating 4, im certain theres a randomization going on that will vary results. Combine this with the sea state, i think were going to have unsatisfavory results more often then not.

3. Year and equipment
While i havent really looked into it, im fairly certain that not all DDs are equiped the same, and equipment varies by year, and nationaly? Anyone know for sure? If so this will vary results.

Last night i replaced all the crewratings in the U505 mission from 4 to 3, and while i had poor results in detection (i changed the starting position and i think i inadvertantly put myself just behind their passive sonar cone), i had excellent results in the ensuing depth charge attack. Unless theres some other factor in there that overrode the individual crewratings, the results i had from that DC attack was very promising (they sunk me once), and has encouraged me to work further with crewrating 3.

With crewrating 4 im hesitant to open the floodgates to uber passive sonar, but less so with crew rating 3.

I just started a war patrol with Improved convoys, all escorts crew rating in the SCR file have been replaced to 3 (old values ranged from 0

,1, 2, and 4)

As soon as i latch onto a convoy ill hopefuly see soem results. But whats going to skew them is the damn weather! always 15 winds, and alot of storms. If i could cut that factor down by half id be a happy camper.

12-01-05, 03:02 PM	#338
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	I think theres alot of randomization were dealing with: 1. State of the seas. First and foremost i think this is biting me in the ass. Wave factor and probably noise factor play a major role here, and i think theres a degree of randomization to it. Im slowling whitling down these figures. Right now im trying 0.4 noise factor and 0.20 wave factor. If anyone wants to experiment and hasnt tried this yet, try zeroing out wave factor. I think what you might find is when you get a certain distance to a DD (say within 2K radius), no amount of creeping or silent running is going to work.. at least thats the conclusion my experiments have lead me to. If anyone can duplicate that, i think its a step forward. 2. Crew rating Im of the conclusion that theres a randomization percentage assoicated with how well a DD can detect you based on crew rating. The lower the crew the greater the random factor (odds in your favor), the higher the crew, the less random percentage (odds not in your favor). But even with crew rating 4, im certain theres a randomization going on that will vary results. Combine this with the sea state, i think were going to have unsatisfavory results more often then not. 3. Year and equipment While i havent really looked into it, im fairly certain that not all DDs are equiped the same, and equipment varies by year, and nationaly? Anyone know for sure? If so this will vary results. Last night i replaced all the crewratings in the U505 mission from 4 to 3, and while i had poor results in detection (i changed the starting position and i think i inadvertantly put myself just behind their passive sonar cone), i had excellent results in the ensuing depth charge attack. Unless theres some other factor in there that overrode the individual crewratings, the results i had from that DC attack was very promising (they sunk me once), and has encouraged me to work further with crewrating 3. With crewrating 4 im hesitant to open the floodgates to uber passive sonar, but less so with crew rating 3. I just started a war patrol with Improved convoys, all escorts crew rating in the SCR file have been replaced to 3 (old values ranged from 0 ,1, 2, and 4) As soon as i latch onto a convoy ill hopefuly see soem results. But whats going to skew them is the damn weather! always 15 winds, and alot of storms. If i could cut that factor down by half id be a happy camper.