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Skybird · 08-10-11, 02:21 PM

Bumpkeys, anyone?

That Kaba locks like in the above videos, or doorlocks still vulnerable to bumpkeys (Schlagschlüssel), still get sold in the shops, is hilarious. And that producers of these locks, especially normal socalled security-doorlocks that nevertheless are vulnerable to bumpkeys, still do not tell their customers about it, imo is criminal, because it is an intentional deception of the paying customer who is intentionally left in the belief to have bought a secure lock. Some months ago, when being in the do-it-yourself-market, I checked some locks due to curiosity - and the printed descriptions did not mention the vulnerability at all, although the manufactzurers know about it. Bumpkeys can be legally advertised and bought in Germany for small money (20-30 Euros), and open most doors with socalled "security locks" within seconds. Check youtube, if you don't believe it.

Yes, locks are meant to delay an intruder, not to eternally prevent him from entering, and yes, no lock ever will be totally secure. But what the videos demonstrate, or the speed and easiness by which even a novice can use bumpkeys to open locked doors within seconds, leads the whole concept nevertheless ad absurdum. Especially when the tools are legally available to everybody.

08-10-11, 02:21 PM	#5
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,680 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Bumpkeys, anyone? That Kaba locks like in the above videos, or doorlocks still vulnerable to bumpkeys (Schlagschlüssel), still get sold in the shops, is hilarious. And that producers of these locks, especially normal socalled security-doorlocks that nevertheless are vulnerable to bumpkeys, still do not tell their customers about it, imo is criminal, because it is an intentional deception of the paying customer who is intentionally left in the belief to have bought a secure lock. Some months ago, when being in the do-it-yourself-market, I checked some locks due to curiosity - and the printed descriptions did not mention the vulnerability at all, although the manufactzurers know about it. Bumpkeys can be legally advertised and bought in Germany for small money (20-30 Euros), and open most doors with socalled "security locks" within seconds. Check youtube, if you don't believe it. Yes, locks are meant to delay an intruder, not to eternally prevent him from entering, and yes, no lock ever will be totally secure. But what the videos demonstrate, or the speed and easiness by which even a novice can use bumpkeys to open locked doors within seconds, leads the whole concept nevertheless ad absurdum. Especially when the tools are legally available to everybody. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.